E36 M3 Coupe Coil Overs

[V'NOLAN]

HI Guys

Does anyone have coil overs on your rides? What brand, how does it compare to others and whats the cost?

I always see add's for coilvers excluding the M3 models and ive seen adds where they say all you need to do on an M3 is add stabilizer link arms and then you can use the standard coil overs

Any advise?

Also how is Jom or BC Racing as i see alot of add's for them and does the shock in the coil over wear faster due to the added stress than a normal shock? And are these shocks sold separately?

:fencelook: :fencelook:

Br
V'Nolan

 

[Peejay]

Speak to Moranor for advise and purchasing.

 

[Doomsdaya]

Calypso fitted BC to his E36 M3 Coupe, he can shed more light on those coilies...

 

[V'NOLAN]

Calypso fitted BC to his E36 M3 Coupe, he can shed more light on those coilies...

will wait for him to reply as i cant inbox him. its full:biglol: think 2 many coilover questions

 

[calypso]

Been covered here. I think a few guys have them now.
http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=16724

Maybe let everyone know what you want out of them? Are you tracking the car, going for stance? ect

 

[kugs330]

Bring the car the next time you coming home bru, we will cut your springs with the angle grinder for you :roflol: :biglol:

 

[moranor@axis]

by far the most important component in your suspension id the damper... these have to be developed and valved for your car to deliver the best ride and performance possible... the low budget coilover manufactures cannot invest as much in R&D as the established brands this is why they are out classed...

get the best dampers you can for your budget... if you have to go fixed height its still better than skimping on dampers...

 

[InFrA007]

Well lets put it this way,a friend of mine takes part in the National Drift series so from a drivimg perspective he drives very well and understands car balance better than most. He uses BC's in all his cars bar the drift car because for competition you require a level higher than an off the shelf solution.

To put things into perspective, he was one of the first to get himself a Toyota 86 which he uses as a daily. Around Scribante in stock form the car was doing 1:19's on 18" wheels, after BC's, this time came down to 1:17's, BC's + semi slicks, time dropped to 1:14's which is what the VW Polo Cup cars do around there. That's a 2 second drop in times just from a set of BC's around a 2.5km circuit. I've been around with him both drifting the 86 as well as doing clean laps. Whoever knows the track will know its quite technical with the esses following immediately after a double apex right hander and then the blind corner up at Hangar which is followed immediately by a dip which can easily catch an unsettled car. Throughout the lap the car is stable and well damped.

I've also spent some time driving his 86 myself in town, on the open road and on a bit of gravel section, at no point were they harsh bouncy or intrusive noise wise.

Are they the best? No, if you want the best take out a bond and order a something from Öhlins, anything more expensive is going to be better most of the time. But as a suspension solution they work and they work well, that's just my 2cents based on what I've experienced so far.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

I have Bilstein B16 PSS 10's on my e46 M3.

One word.

AMAZING.

This car corners like a go kart. Never experienced something so responsive and so easy to control. The car literally pulls you into a corner. She holds onto the corner like no other road car I have ever experienced.

I've driven Burgy's e46 M3, which does not have coilovers, and although the car handles bloody well, the coilovers are a big difference. You are able to take a corner faster with much more confidence in the system.

Great thing about it, its fully adjustable. So, you can find the setup that suits you. My setup now is set for track racing. Its hard as hell and pretty uncomfortable going over bumps and small cracks in the road, but I'm ok with that. Others may not be.

Its actually crazy how responsive the steering is and how it feels like it is pulling you towards the corner. No shitty understeer... unless you take a corner way too fast. That's on you... no coilover suspension will save you from hitting a corner faster that physics will allow you to.

You will learn the limits of yours suspension pretty quickly. Take a long roundabout on the highway. Go into it slow at first and then start speeding up, feel how well the car holds the corner. The coilovers speak back to you, you can easily feel when the car is ready to give up and understeer will set it. It doesn't just happen, you can feel it slowly coming, you just control the car with throttle. Its great.

:thumbs:

 

[InFrA007]

Can't go wrong with Bilsteins

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

 

[moranor@axis]

KoniSA replaced some KW V3s (not bad dampers at all) on one of the Mini Works race cars with Koni Race dampers and the car is 2 seconds faster at Swartkops...

bear in mind that Swartkops is also a very small track and the gain is much more on the larger tracks :rollsmile:

on a budget for a street car lowering springs and high quality dampers is the way to go for the best ride and performace...

we have taken quite a few budget coilovers off cars and replaced with better stuff... every customer was very happy with how much better it felt after...

 

[V'NOLAN]

has anyone use Vmax or Jom and added link arms to make it fit?

 

[kabal]

the kits should come with the sway bar links

 

[V'NOLAN]

from the guys i spoke to apparently not. Just wanted to find out how these brands are rated

 

[moranor@axis]

dont bother with Vmax or Jom they have no place on an M car (or any BMW for that matter)... only better than blown shocks and a big step down from what the car came with from factory...

 

[boost3d]

The m3 is a great car , price parts not so....

My advice would be , that unless you tracking your car where you require the coilovers for different setups I would advise you to invest in a better quality spring and damper setup instead of the entry level coilovers.
My ex M3 was lowered 30mm on eibachs and I didn't want to compromise the ride of the car by going lower...

At the end of the day , your needs will be firstly dictated by function over form and then secondly cost, because ultimately you get what you pay for......

 

[E30 Freak]

Also chat to Fiekie M3, he has BC's as well

 

[fiekieM3]

It's like Moranor & German_spec says function over form, why do you want coilovers? Are wanting the flexibility of the stance of your ride? Are you wanting it a bit lower but with still having the comfort of the original setup. Before I bought my BC coilovers, I did as much research as I possibly could, check all the opinions on various forums etc etc... And for what I was wanting from my suspension setup, it so far has been an awesome purchase. Yes the newer companies cannot compete with the more established brands with regards to testing, quality & in certain areas capability. They do however give you the choice to make a decision between the function you desire and the function you can afford. And in my experience, decent suspension FUNCTION don't come cheap.

 

[calypso]

Well lets put it this way,a friend of mine takes part in the National Drift series so from a drivimg perspective he drives very well and understands car balance better than most. He uses BC's in all his cars bar the drift car because for competition you require a level higher than an off the shelf solution.

To put things into perspective, he was one of the first to get himself a Toyota 86 which he uses as a daily. Around Scribante in stock form the car was doing 1:19's on 18" wheels, after BC's, this time came down to 1:17's, BC's + semi slicks, time dropped to 1:14's which is what the VW Polo Cup cars do around there. That's a 2 second drop in times just from a set of BC's around a 2.5km circuit. I've been around with him both drifting the 86 as well as doing clean laps. Whoever knows the track will know its quite technical with the esses following immediately after a double apex right hander and then the blind corner up at Hangar which is followed immediately by a dip which can easily catch an unsettled car. Throughout the lap the car is stable and well damped.

I've also spent some time driving his 86 myself in town, on the open road and on a bit of gravel section, at no point were they harsh bouncy or intrusive noise wise.

Are they the best? No, if you want the best take out a bond and order a something from Öhlins, anything more expensive is going to be better most of the time. But as a suspension solution they work and they work well, that's just my 2cents based on what I've experienced so far.

Any ideas what is stock on the GT86?

 

[InFrA007]

Well lets put it this way,a friend of mine takes part in the National Drift series so from a drivimg perspective he drives very well and understands car balance better than most. He uses BC's in all his cars bar the drift car because for competition you require a level higher than an off the shelf solution.

To put things into perspective, he was one of the first to get himself a Toyota 86 which he uses as a daily. Around Scribante in stock form the car was doing 1:19's on 18" wheels, after BC's, this time came down to 1:17's, BC's + semi slicks, time dropped to 1:14's which is what the VW Polo Cup cars do around there. That's a 2 second drop in times just from a set of BC's around a 2.5km circuit. I've been around with him both drifting the 86 as well as doing clean laps. Whoever knows the track will know its quite technical with the esses following immediately after a double apex right hander and then the blind corner up at Hangar which is followed immediately by a dip which can easily catch an unsettled car. Throughout the lap the car is stable and well damped.

I've also spent some time driving his 86 myself in town, on the open road and on a bit of gravel section, at no point were they harsh bouncy or intrusive noise wise.

Are they the best? No, if you want the best take out a bond and order a something from Öhlins, anything more expensive is going to be better most of the time. But as a suspension solution they work and they work well, that's just my 2cents based on what I've experienced so far.

Any ideas what is stock on the GT86?

I'll try find out and let you know what comes out of there stock from him if its labelled but found this... bearing in mind the GT86 and FT86 are the same thing with only the BRZ possibly being a little different:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=507702