Driving a 320i

[calypso]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

 

[Sportpack]

I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

 

[drugekull]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

 

[AshG108]

Seems like there are only a few that are replying to this thread after my long post and it seems to be the like minded people who understand that it is personal preference on the vehicle.

Drive your E36, E46, and enjoy. i have never seen a 320i owner whining about why those E46 and E36 guys own such old cars and bla bla bla.

This is a fanatics forum, if people want to be so frieking worried about the next guy's car and how much of a fail that car is yet while dissing their own brand, damn, this is the wrong place for them for sure!

Mods, i request this topic be closed please and any topic of this nature be locked down in future as this definitely only leads to stupid, immature slander and is meaningless and contributes nothing to the forum.

:thumbs:

I understand that you drive a 320i and you taking this a bit personally, but its an open forum and people are entitled to voice their opinions. If it irritates you, dont comment. I mean this in a nice way and am not meaning to get shirty with you.

If someone told me that they thought my car was crap, I would say "whatever dude, good thing your opinion doesnt count to me".

Have you ever wondered why Wayne Rooney bought himself an Audi RS6 when he could have bought a Lamborghini or Porsche or something 1000 times better? (Personally I feel he needs his head checked on this one).

Yes this is a fanatics forum, but I am not a blind fanatic. BMW build some stunners, but they also screw up (new 1 series, X1, 320i j/k :roflol I think the point that is being made is a valid one, some agree and some don't, but its no reason to close the subject

Thank you for being open-minded and i do get your point, but like you say my opinion cna be said whether i like it or not, but if you can go ahead and read all this slander that ahs been had before, 20 page threads that basically all say the same thing all over again, i am not joking, go search for it and read it. i dont care what people say about the 320i, truely i dont. i dont give a rat's a55 about he older vehicle drivrs. i am a member across more than 15 forums Josh, and my point i am making is such, as above, no use to keep a thread running on a forum which only echoes the same arguements from threads that have been here before many times.

that is moderating the forum to keep it informative and not get boring, that is my point bud. and i do understand you not geting shitty with me on this as you think i am taking this personally, but i assure you it aint personal, it is just athread that adds no value to the same arguments, information and loose ego's. and please dont take this in the wrong light either, not getting shitty with you either buddy.

Schweet!

 

[Sportpack]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

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Ideally, I was looking for a 323i...coz I lurve me some 6 pot BMW motor, but I dont like paying through the nose for a car...any car...my options for a 323i were really limited and motorplans were about to expire in a few months pre LCI, or had around 50000 on the clock for LCI models. All in all I think I have a winner in my E90...so I cant challenge a 1.4 Velociti in a robot to robot race, but who cares:fencelook:...lol...I have a super comfortable, really great looking ride at a comfortable installment and awesome fuel efficiency...Im happy:thumbs::joy:

 

[Fordkoppie]

Most of the 320i e90 i see on the road are painted black with enough scratch marks to appear grey and usually their drivers (goverment mabe???) are the sort that sits so far forward with their shoulders almost on the steering wheel and they drive 40 on the highway. Therefore i conclude that there is a huge demand for these cars by aforementioned people and BMW is making money which they are very good at and the ONLY thing they really care about.
It is a car for the masses

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

The only car forum where the guys in bigger powered cars act all yuppy like and look down on the guys driving smaller powered cars as if it is a different branded car.

 

[Jakkals_F30]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

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Ideally, I was looking for a 323i...coz I lurve me some 6 pot BMW motor, but I dont like paying through the nose for a car...any car...my options for a 323i were really limited and motorplans were about to expire in a few months pre LCI, or had around 50000 on the clock for LCI models. All in all I think I have a winner in my E90...so I cant challenge a 1.4 Velociti in a robot to robot race, but who cares:fencelook:...lol...I have a super comfortable, really great looking ride at a comfortable installment and awesome fuel efficiency...Im happy:thumbs::joy:

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I agree with you on that one. I am in a 320i at the moment. Car is in for a oil service and to fix where they decided a scratch would look good for the overall view of the car.
So if all goes well i will have my car back today or lateast tomorrow.
Look the 320i is no performance car and the same with my 323i. Fule consumption on the 320i when driving hard is not as good as my 323i but if you need to you do get 200km/h out of the 320i which is way faster than what's allowed on our ever so awesome and flawless roads. Cruising at 120 on the highway it's still a lovely car to drive. my 2c for the day... lol

 

[Doomsdaya]

usually their drivers (goverment mabe???) are the sort that sits so far forward with their shoulders almost on the steering wheel and they drive 40 on the highway

LoL, I call them go-cart drivers.... they drive big cars but sit cramped :roflol:

 

[Rambam]

At least the E46 is a straight 6 :rollsmile:

 

[Alister ///M]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

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lol i Also "upgraded" from the e46 320i to e90 320i. my view is for a cruiser its not too bad, i been enjoying it ever since. but overtaking :argh: just no torque or power, thats the only frustrating thing. otherwise love it to bits. just wondering, would it be worth it changing the diff, how would the gain in torque be? if it comes anything remotely close to the 320d id do it.

 

[Sportpack]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

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lol i Also "upgraded" from the e46 320i to e90 320i. my view is for a cruiser its not too bad, i been enjoying it ever since. but overtaking :argh: just no torque or power, thats the only frustrating thing. otherwise love it to bits. just wondering, would it be worth it changing the diff, how would the gain in torque be? if it comes anything remotely close to the 320d id do it.

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Just chipping alone would give you e46 performance according to tuner claims...although my ex BMW mechanic did say to me yesterday that its not worth the money...go figure...?

 

[moranor@axis]

they should have put a 318i badge on it because the e46 320i had better performance maybe then people would not expect more from it...

 

[Inspector_Gadget]

they should have put a 318i badge on it because the e46 320i had better performance maybe then people would not expect more from it...

I love BMW but personally fail to understand how they can take the E46 320i with a 2.2L 125 KW 6 Cylinder motor and call a E90 320i 115 KW 4 cylinder motor an upgrade?

The quality of parts is worse and the failures are a lot more frequent.
Steering Racks, LED Tail Light, Door Actuators (One dealer had 3500 units on back order???) gearbox issued and clutch failures?

I say it's because the newer modern cars are now built by the accountants. My brother is a skilled fitter in the air con industry making parts for BMW. Even he has noticed the spec of materials being downgraded.

I say VIVA E46 320i!!!!! Long Live the 6 Cylinder beauty...

PS, my 530i at under 100K will put most E90 to shame in build quality and drive.

 

[moranor@axis]

you dont have to convince me :rollsmile:

 

[drugekull]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

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lol i Also "upgraded" from the e46 320i to e90 320i. my view is for a cruiser its not too bad, i been enjoying it ever since. but overtaking :argh: just no torque or power, thats the only frustrating thing. otherwise love it to bits. just wondering, would it be worth it changing the diff, how would the gain in torque be? if it comes anything remotely close to the 320d id do it.

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All it needs is a small turbo and you done it will sort out the overtaking problems and it will improve things massivly

All the compition is doing turbos why not BMW thats my main gripe with the car.

Although I have been driving it for quite a while now and starting to get used to the lower performance just as you said I get a big reminder when I jump into the oncomming lane and try accelerate then it all comes rushing back to me

 

[Inspector_Gadget]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

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lol i Also "upgraded" from the e46 320i to e90 320i. my view is for a cruiser its not too bad, i been enjoying it ever since. but overtaking :argh: just no torque or power, thats the only frustrating thing. otherwise love it to bits. just wondering, would it be worth it changing the diff, how would the gain in torque be? if it comes anything remotely close to the 320d id do it.

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All it needs is a small turbo and you done it will sort out the overtaking problems and it will improve things massivly

All the compition is doing turbos why not BMW thats my main gripe with the car.

Although I have been driving it for quite a while now and starting to get used to the lower performance just as you said I get a big reminder when I jump into the oncomming lane and try accelerate then it all comes rushing back to me

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New BMW Model due end 2011 will be forced induction petrol.

 

[drugekull]

I want not making a dig on power. I just found it strange how little was inside in terms of AC and comfort features.
My e36 OBC had more features then the e90 OBC. But this was a very base spec unit with zero options.
Under the skin in terms of build and safety, I know the e90 is a much better car.

Yeah all these luxury car manufacturers do this the base model comes with nothing then you have to pay for every little thing which really makes an impact on the car price. Its gotten better in recent years the base models actually come with Leather seats and AC now and a Stearing wheel and accelerator peddle.

Where BMW does this its not as bad as Merc or Audi.
These guys make you pay for every little thing you add where BMW has packs which are good value for money since the extras have quite a good discount.

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I recently took delivery of a 2010 E90 320i with Mpack with 18000 on the clock, space grey and 18"ers and to be honest, there is very little difference in terms of performance when I compare it to the E46 320i I had before. I am very happy with my 320i...and if I really want some extra oomph, I can chip or remap it and then I can have more power, at least equal to the 6 pot 320i...oh..and not to mention the 225 kms I have covered on only a quarter tank of fuel...

Yeah I also had an e46 320i before my next car was the 323i e90 though its more of a next step if you move from a 320i e46.

The 323i had more power since it is a 2.5 Motor and I still think the 320i e46 had more ooph than the e90 320i but it was a while ago since I drove it. The Fuel consumption on the e90 320i is higher then my 323i though.

When you were looking for cars did you see any 323i e90's where they a lot more expensive?

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lol i Also "upgraded" from the e46 320i to e90 320i. my view is for a cruiser its not too bad, i been enjoying it ever since. but overtaking :argh: just no torque or power, thats the only frustrating thing. otherwise love it to bits. just wondering, would it be worth it changing the diff, how would the gain in torque be? if it comes anything remotely close to the 320d id do it.

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All it needs is a small turbo and you done it will sort out the overtaking problems and it will improve things massivly

All the compition is doing turbos why not BMW thats my main gripe with the car.

Although I have been driving it for quite a while now and starting to get used to the lower performance just as you said I get a big reminder when I jump into the oncomming lane and try accelerate then it all comes rushing back to me

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New BMW Model due end 2011 will be forced induction petrol.

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Thats good news

 

[Coisman]

imp:
Hi guys, ok some hurtful things was flung around, and this is a forum where we can pretty much say almost ANYTHING and get away with it, but every now and then someone, (including myself) says something unbecoming and SO offensive that it needs to be governed and deleted.
We as mods don't like to always just intervene and delete posts, but guys... TAKE A CHILL PILL.
I had to drive an E90 320i for a week when my baby still had motorplan and got sick, and I HATED the lag in power. It cruised great but nooooo power!!!!! :argh:
I've also driven a E36 320i, and I tell you the power difference to E90 isn't any at all. The E36 just sounds MUCH better because it was a 6, same for the E46 320i, it's a 6 cylender, but powerwise, seriously no difference.
So please people, don't take everything said so personal, and guys, if you feel the need to piss on someones batteries, make sure to tell them its a joke afterwards.
PS: Look at this post made by me in another thread: http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=24149&page=2

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

Well as I said The only car forum where a smaller powered car is dissed by the yuppies in their bigger powered cars as if its a different brand, not very fanatics like is it.:flyfun::argh: Different strokes for different folks, each to his own. Thought we all here for the love of the brand:idea:

I bought a 323i at the same time my friend bought a 320i, he loves his beemer just as much as I did. So it doesn't bother him that he bought a 320, he bought a BMW, high 5 to him.:thumbs::bravo: