Dp without software? Possible?

[joelorgat]

Evening, I trust u guys are well.

I've been wondering, will it be possible for me to do a downpipe without any software tune to regulate the delete of the dpf and cat?

Also, ill probably do an egr delete Also. My mileage is still very low however I do short distance the car here and there.

The car is a 2013 BTW. Tia

Anything im missing to do on the car, please advise

 

[Red Line]

You can do a downpipe without software but you will most likely run into issues where the lamda/oxygen sensors will read higher than expected and will result in the engine light coming on. Most likely, a bank 1 error and system running lean error due to incorrect air/fuel ratio etc that the original tune is expecting. Car will either go into limp mode or run worse than stock power. Why would you not want to do software as well? If you are adding a performance part , the ecu needs to be tuned to accommodate the changes.

 

[joelorgat]

You can do a downpipe without software but you will most likely run into issues where the lamda/oxygen sensors will read higher than expected and will result in the engine light coming on. Most likely, a bank 1 error and system running lean error due to incorrect air/fuel ratio etc that the original tune is expecting. Car will either go into limp mode or run worse than stock power. Why would you not want to do software as well? If you are adding a performance part , the ecu needs to be tuned to accommodate the changes.

Definitely not doing dp without software now

I thought:

Software = tune = 💰

I got quoted 5k for a tune, thing is you need very good guys to do the tune.

Another thing is, I've checked around and found some guys that do a dp for the cat. Dpf is customers. So its basically free and I get to sell the dpf for maybe 2-3k.

Those some guys that I mentioned go by the name as (raza automotive)

 

[joelorgat]

You can do a downpipe without software but you will most likely run into issues where the lamda/oxygen sensors will read higher than expected and will result in the engine light coming on. Most likely, a bank 1 error and system running lean error due to incorrect air/fuel ratio etc that the original tune is expecting. Car will either go into limp mode or run worse than stock power. Why would you not want to do software as well? If you are adding a performance part , the ecu needs to be tuned to accommodate the changes.

Alright, i definitely needed to know that. Thx bro. Im definitely nkt gonna chance it and try. U have saved me a lot of problems.

 

[Red Line]

What car is it? Because there are tried and tested software + downpipe tuners/tunes out there. I havent checked recently but a tune for sw and dp should be in the 3k-5k range! (Depending on car and tuner)

 

[joelorgat]

What car is it? Because there are tried and tested software + downpipe tuners/tunes out there. I havent checked recently but a tune for sw and dp should be in the 3k-5k range! (Depending on car and tuner)

F30 330d. Got some quotes now for dp and sw only, Its 5k with fitment .


Downpipe- R5000
Stage 2 tune- R6000

This was the initial price i got quoted, i was really confused about the matter but u clarified it, Shot bru.

 

[AshG108]

F30 330d. Got some quotes now for dp and sw only, Its 5k with fitment .


Downpipe- R5000
Stage 2 tune- R6000

This was the initial price i got quoted, i was really confused about the matter but u clarified it, Shot bru.

I got my DP done by Raza and no regrets, great DP and was fitted within 35 minutes or so. I did this after my Stage 1 tune where the car was DP-ready via. the software already. The price seems right for a tune, check with @Xcede Performance for this. solid tune and DP work wonders. If you still hazy, check my thread on Raza DP and Xcede tuning and you can decide further.

 

[Red Line]

F30 330d. Got some quotes now for dp and sw only, Its 5k with fitment .


Downpipe- R5000
Stage 2 tune- R6000

This was the initial price i got quoted, i was really confused about the matter but u clarified it, Shot bru.

Seen some 330d ‘s make some insane torque figures with sw + dp. They are mild from factory and wake up properly with a tune.