Difference Of a German Spec and Sa Spec E36 M3

tivoli786

Member
This guy has a bad rep I remember once going to see a conquest and lied saying it is clean what what . Get there freakin car is a hunk of junk speedo not working spray workk all over. A dodgy salseman in my books
 

B16A4

Member
SP33DYV said:
IIRC the front seats are different, nothing else.
i recently took out the vader front seats on my "german spec" for motorsport seats with more comfort and better leather:fencelook:
 

444YYY

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B16A4 said:
SP33DYV said:
IIRC the front seats are different, nothing else.
i recently took out the vader front seats on my "german spec" for motorsport seats with more comfort and better leather:fencelook:

How dare u commit such a crime!!! :fencelook:
 

ASH

New member
Correct me if I'm missing something, but werent all 2door E36 M3s imports, and hence a German spec?

I doubt we had local built ones in SA.

Is it just a ploy to bump up the asking price a bit by claiming it is a German Spec, when the car is actually made in Germany?
 
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wikk3d88

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ASH said:
Correct me if I'm missing something, but werent all 2door E36 M3s imports, and hence a German spec?

I doubt we had local built ones in SA.

Is it just a ploy to bump up the asking price a bit by claiming it is a German Spec, when the car is actually made in Germany?

A recent advertisement of a E36 M3 with “German spec” triggered me to write the following letter. I’m not sure whether everybody knows what the “German spec” means and/or what the difference between the “German spec” and the “South African spec” M3’s are.



Many a time people refer to certain E36 M3’s as the “German spec” cars. By calling them “German spec” M3’s sound as if they are spec’d superior to our local built M3’s and I thought to clarify any mis-understanding.

The easiest way to explain it, is to rather highlight the features that the “South African spec” M3’s had over and above that of the “German spec” M3’s.



There were 748 South African spec M3’s built (assembled) from September 1993 until May 1994 in South Africa from Semi Knocked-Down kits (SKD). After the local built SKD M3’s were discontinued in May 1994, BMW SA started to import the German built M3 coupés from June 1994 until about mid 1995. Unfortunately I do not know how many German built M3’s were imported.



The South African built M3’s and German built M3’s were identical except for a few small cosmetic differences, which I list hereunder.



The South African built M3’s had the following features/standard options over and above the German spec cars:



Slightly altered version of the S50 B30 powerplant designed to run on leaded fuel (for South African conditions)
Slightly altered exterior colour palette (the use of specific local paint colours)
A higher level of standard equipment, i.e.:
Air-conditioning
Power sunroof
On-board computor
Hi-fi speakers
The forged M Double Spoke alloy wheels (the German spec M3’s were fitted with a different style wheel)
The use of regular (non M-Design) BMW sport seats in either M-cloth/Amaretta or extended Nappa leather.


The fully imported German built M3’s had the BMW AG exterior colours and they were equipped with the M-Design sport seats.



From the aforementioned information, it is evident that the “German spec” M3’s were lower spec’d than the 748 South African built M3’s – and on the contrary, the SA spec M3’s should rather be the ones attracting the enthusiasts’ attention, and not vice versa. Maybe the term “German spec M3” sounds great, but it has no additional value, rather less.



I trust that the aforementioned information will be of assistance and also clarifies the meaning of the broadly used term “German spec M3”.
 

pillayk79

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No, some locally built (Wikipedia )"The majority of E36 M3s were produced at the Regensburg factory, however a small number of detuned right hand drive M3s were assembled at BMW's Rosslyn plant in Pretoria, South Africa. In total, 46,525 coupés, 12,114 Cabriolets and 12,603 saloons were produced. Saloon production ended in December 1997; the coupé ceased production in late 1998; and the convertible in December 1999."
 

ASH

New member
Thanks, Pillayk79, but where those local ones for local sale or export, as it says they where detuned. To my knowledge the detuned ones where exported to the US. I doubt we had a detuned version here in SA, with the coupe being 210kw and the sedan later somthing like 232kw.
 

BillyBob

Active member
SA 3.0 e36 M3 was same as Euro spec - 210 kW

Our 3.2 S50B32 was however detuned - Europe had 236 kW, ours was 228 kW - piggybacked to pull timing and run richer to compensate for our rotten fuel standards at the time - or at least, that's the story.
 

Kimeran

///Member
This is just pure speculation as I've never compared the two, but i HEARD that the vin number was on the opposite side for the German Spec seeing as the cars were LHD in Germany.
 

B16A4

Member
BillyBob said:
SA 3.0 e36 M3 was same as Euro spec - 210 kW

Our 3.2 S50B32 was however detuned - Europe had 236 kW, ours was 228 kW - piggybacked to pull timing and run richer to compensate for our rotten fuel standards at the time - or at least, that's the story.

Euro B32 had higher compression also implying different pistons
 
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