Chiplogic pushes the V10 record further

George Smooth

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Congrats to Cleo from Chiplogic for running a 11.8 today in his E60 M5 V10. They also have the record for a M6 with a 11.6 run. Well done guys.
 

George Smooth

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Margate. Am waiting for the results to get posted and will put them up.
Xcede came close to the M6 V10 record that Chiplogic holds of 11.6 with a run of 11.7 seconds so the V10 race is really hotting up and I am sure we going to see even more phenomenal times in the future from both quarters.

A C63 that was there also did the best time for SA running a 11.8 which is a phenomenal time as well. I am really happy this got done because up till now we had no C63 that could compete against international competitors times. At this stage the international dudes cannot compete against our V10 times. Now if only someone could move Tarlton to the coast, I am sure with a properly prepared track these time would be much lower.
 

Sherwin@xcede

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Well done George. We had a shake-down of our M6 & ran 11.7 with basically a stock car. I can see an 11.5 coming.
 

50/50

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Good luck Sherwee i knw u can do :clap:
Congarts to Cleo e36,e46,m6 n nw m5 record holder:clap:
 

Kisho135i

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11's!!! Imagine here by the coast. Doesnt alttitude irritate you guys. a 135 with just a chip runs +- 12.8 seconds. Imagine what george, street racer, all these chaps will run here. Hectic
 

Wild BMW

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Kisho135i said:
11's!!! Imagine here by the coast. Doesnt alttitude irritate you guys. a 135 with just a chip runs +- 12.8 seconds. Imagine what george, street racer, all these chaps will run here. Hectic

these runs were at the Coast
 

George Smooth

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Kisho135i said:
Oh ok that explains alot lol.

George what do you think you'll run at the coast?

I have never driven my car or any 335 at the coast to actually give a accurate answer. I know that I will max out up here at around 12.4-12.5 without using meth because that's the best I can VBox. This is also without removing seats etc from my car. My car is a Sportpack with Exclusive pack with the fully electronic seats which weigh a ton. I am not planning to lighten the car until I have seen a 12.5 at the track in stock trim.
Plugging that figure into one of those density calculators gives me a high eleven at the coast which is on par with what the foreign guys are doing although I do not think there is a coastal track with similar traction.
 

George Smooth

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Sankekur said:
Wouldn't a FI car suffer almost no altitude effects?

The race cars with very large turbos have very little losses but cars with smaller turbos that are boosting far higher than stock or design suffer quite badly. Regardless if the same boost is achieved the oxygen density is still lower at high altitude so you can think of it like poor boost.
The turbo at altitude has to spin quite a bit faster to overcome the .15bar of boost which is the barometric pressure difference so this makes the little turbos spin into a threshold where they start producing excessive heat to its quite a art to get it right from Altitude to Sea Level.
 

Sankekur

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George Smooth said:
Sankekur said:
Wouldn't a FI car suffer almost no altitude effects?

The race cars with very large turbos have very little losses but cars with smaller turbos that are boosting far higher than stock or design suffer quite badly. Regardless if the same boost is achieved the oxygen density is still lower at high altitude so you can think of it like poor boost.
The turbo at altitude has to spin quite a bit faster to overcome the .15bar of boost which is the barometric pressure difference so this makes the little turbos spin into a threshold where they start producing excessive heat to its quite a art to get it right from Altitude to Sea Level.

Thanks, that makes sense, I thought of the induction of turbos being in the same manner as that of turbine engines, which can produce the same levels of power from sea-level all the way up into the statosphere, but those turbines is quite a bit larger :)
 

George Smooth

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Sankekur said:
George Smooth said:
Sankekur said:
Wouldn't a FI car suffer almost no altitude effects?

The race cars with very large turbos have very little losses but cars with smaller turbos that are boosting far higher than stock or design suffer quite badly. Regardless if the same boost is achieved the oxygen density is still lower at high altitude so you can think of it like poor boost.
The turbo at altitude has to spin quite a bit faster to overcome the .15bar of boost which is the barometric pressure difference so this makes the little turbos spin into a threshold where they start producing excessive heat to its quite a art to get it right from Altitude to Sea Level.

Thanks, that makes sense, I thought of the induction of turbos being in the same manner as that of turbine engines, which can produce the same levels of power from sea-level all the way up into the statosphere, but those turbines is quite a bit larger :)

Its quite similar with turbines in my opinion. On the long hall flights such as SA to New York the aeroplanes first go to Cape Town from JHB and do the full fueling there as they do not have the power to take off here with a full load of fuel. Thats also why some aeroplanes have got altitude limits.
 

Sankekur

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George Smooth said:
Sankekur said:
George Smooth said:
Sankekur said:
Wouldn't a FI car suffer almost no altitude effects?

The race cars with very large turbos have very little losses but cars with smaller turbos that are boosting far higher than stock or design suffer quite badly. Regardless if the same boost is achieved the oxygen density is still lower at high altitude so you can think of it like poor boost.
The turbo at altitude has to spin quite a bit faster to overcome the .15bar of boost which is the barometric pressure difference so this makes the little turbos spin into a threshold where they start producing excessive heat to its quite a art to get it right from Altitude to Sea Level.

Thanks, that makes sense, I thought of the induction of turbos being in the same manner as that of turbine engines, which can produce the same levels of power from sea-level all the way up into the statosphere, but those turbines is quite a bit larger :)

Its quite similar with turbines in my opinion. On the long hall flights such as SA to New York the aeroplanes first go to Cape Town from JHB and do the full fueling there as they do not have the power to take off here with a full load of fuel. Thats also why some aeroplanes have got altitude limits.

Thought altitude limits where more based on airframe design and strength as larger passanger aircraft are harder to pressurise do to their size, restricting them to the 33000-38000ft bracket where smaller millitary aircraft can go beyond 70000ft which is essence use same type of engine but with smaller low compression fans and the addition of an afterburner (but not always).

Whoah this is now way off topic :) :wrongforum: sorry guys.
 
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anile8-zn

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there will be an frc m6 competing shortly in the this v10 race.
 

George Smooth

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anile8-zn said:
there will be an frc m6 competing shortly in the this v10 race.

Will be nice to see since they didn't decide to join the X35i races. I guess you gotta have the right customer too and tuners cannot go out and buy each model just to run records.
 
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anile8-zn

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Well they did tune my 335i
Still hold the record for highest dyno figures here in kzn.
:)
Didn't track it once it was properly modded though.
 
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