Chinese X1 - Zinoro 1E

ASH

New member
I thought this was a Chinese knock off of the X1, as the Chinese do copy a lot.

But....I was wrong it actually is a joint venture with BMW and Brilliance (chinese auto maker)

After they said they will develope a new sports car with Toyota, I think this would set a new low in showing how much direction BMW has lost.



http://e84.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=908592



All you have to do is buy a Zinoro 1E, change the front bumper, and presto you have a cheap BMW!!!
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
Maybe its better this way, as instead of fighting in court over Copyrights cause they making a car that looks like a bmw, this way bmw actually gets something back.
 

Spy007

///Member
The auto industry has a very confusing family tree. The past few years have seen partnerships, sales, separations, bankruptcies, and entire divisions killed off, making it difficult to keep up with who owns which car brands.

As automakers slim down to become more profitable and efficient, a number of changes have been made in recent years. We have seen storied names, such as Hummer, Mercury, and Pontiac, fade away into the history books. We have seen others, such as Chrysler, Jaguar, and Volvo, find new international corporate parents. And some, such as Aston Martin, remain in flux.

To help clear up some of the confusion, we present a basic road map to navigate who owns which car brands among the major automotive companies that sell in the United States. Of course, the list is definitely subject to change.

BMW owns: Mini and Rolls Royce.

Fiat owns: Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Ferrari, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, and Ram.

Ford Motor Company owns: Lincoln and a small stake in Mazda.

General Motors owns: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, and GMC. GM owns a controlling interest in Daewoo, as well as Opel and Vauxhall in Europe and Holden in Australia. (The U.S. government also owns a stake in GM.)

Honda owns: Acura.

Hyundai owns: Kia.

Tata Motors (India) owns: Jaguar and Land Rover.

Mazda is independently owned.

Mitsubishi is independently owned.

Daimler AG owns: Mercedes-Benz and Smart.

Nissan owns: Infiniti. (Nissan, in turn, is owned by Renault.)

Saab is owned by National Electric Vehicle Sweden (NEVS).

Subaru: Owned by Fuji Heavy Industries with Toyota a minority partner.

Tesla: Toyota is a minority partner. Partnership with Daimler AG

Toyota Motor Company owns: Lexus, Scion, Daihatsu and Hino Motors, with a stake in Fuji Industries (Subaru's parent company) and Isuzu.

Volkswagen owns: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, and overseas-brands SEAT and Skoda.

Volvo is owned by Chinese-automaker Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, aka Geely.


http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Commun...liver-Blog2/Who-owns-who-in-the-car-industry/


http://www.toomanycars.info/CarRelationship/


They are all in Bed with each other. Money money money. Screw you as client. Mitsubishi is still they only real independent left.
 

MikeR

Well-known member
:rollsmile: its all about the benjamins....dinero.
the china market is humongous...give them what they want and make big money, its good business sense even if we dont like it.
 

ASH

New member
Yeah, but I'm really not sure how does Toyota's expertise fit into
Bmws picture, Toyota have had some ok sports cars like the Supra,
Celica, LFA (expensive), GT86 has had good reviews, but on the strength of BMws Z models past and present I don't think BMW would need further help to develope a sports car. However they may seek a cheaper platform to do a Subaru BRZ type situation to avoid all the developement costs involved in creating a new model. So this is a reverse situation to the zinoro 1E in that you will possibly have something that has Toyota underpinnings but branded as a BMW.

Once again the BMW fan gets short changed, as with everything with BMW involves a price premium......one would expect the BMW version of a Toyota BMW developement to cost more than the toyota version.

This is probably why the Z4M will never make it into production................



Astro said:
ASH said:
After they said they will develope a new sports car with Toyota

Surprised that none of the Chinese manufacturers have copied the Toyota 86 already.
 
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