Can u trust a salesperson/ dealer

jastam

New member
How is it that 2 cars (similar model, style etc) can have totally different price tags. I did a bit of window shopping the other day and saw an M3 2004 with 98km going for 399k and the xact model diff colour this time with 61km going for 289k. Lucky for me I wasnt shopping for 1. It would have been difficult not to take the 289k. But how do you know u not buying junk. Both guys spoke highly about these accident free beauts. How do they determine the pricing. Is'nt it a rip off somewhere? Just asking.
 

freerider

Honorary ///Member
if you are buying a car and laying down your money, you do not trust anyone! take the VIN and do your research, learn about the car that you are looking for and get to know how much they sell for. Also a good idea is to arrange an extended test drive and take the car to a few dealerships and ask them to give you a trade in value :) they are excellent at finding all the faults you miss
 

jastam

New member
freerider said:
if you are buying a car and laying down your money, you do not trust anyone! take the VIN and do your research, learn about the car that you are looking for and get to know how much they sell for. Also a good idea is to arrange an extended test drive and take the car to a few dealerships and ask them to give you a trade in value :) they are excellent at finding all the faults you miss


Thats good advice. Sales people feed on desperation and lack of info from the buyer. Hence they will always use the line "2 or more guys submitted applications already and waiting for bank approval" hoping you will jump for the deal.
 

applehero

///Member
jastam said:
freerider said:
if you are buying a car and laying down your money, you do not trust anyone! take the VIN and do your research, learn about the car that you are looking for and get to know how much they sell for. Also a good idea is to arrange an extended test drive and take the car to a few dealerships and ask them to give you a trade in value :) they are excellent at finding all the faults you miss


Thats good advice. Sales people feed on desperation and lack of info from the buyer. Hence they will always use the line "2 or more guys submitted applications already and waiting for bank approval" hoping you will jump for the deal.

I suppose the moral of the story is take your time finding exactly what you want. Don't let yourself just buy impulsively... I agree with the VIN option...
 

kabal

Active member
dont trust them :)

when I was shopping for my car, I went to a couple of places, and eventually found the one I wanted. Still open for options, another dealer contacted me, telling me they have a car, at a premium to the one I found. Turns out the car they found for me, was the same one I was gonna buy at the other dealer. fuckers!!!!
 

msm

Well-known member
kabal said:
dont trust them :)

when I was shopping for my car, I went to a couple of places, and eventually found the one I wanted. Still open for options, another dealer contacted me, telling me they have a car, at a premium to the one I found. Turns out the car they found for me, was the same one I was gonna buy at the other dealer. fuckers!!!!

Happens quite often... especially if you ask for a specific car model. Dealers will "shop" at other dealers and if it's a car that's in demand, there's 2 dealer markups included in YOUR deal ...
 

Hellas

///Member
You have to see it from the dealers perspective. I live in a small town and there is NO way that the couple of local dealers will have ALL the vehicles for the local market. They simply can't afford to keep that much capital in stock for when you MAYBE want a certain car. Look on their tables, they all have the little printed leaflets that you can get everywhere for free or in newspapers.

Once you come to them with your specific need, they simply also open the brochure and phone up the other dealer. From there they simply network the deal. The original dealer has the car, so 'your' dealer simply pays the original dealer a levy for washing/obtaining the car, and 'your' dealer makes the bulk of the profit (plus any 'additional' costs incurred in getting you the exact vehicle you wanted). But you will pay the full price.
 

jastam

New member
HELLAS said:
You have to see it from the dealers perspective. I live in a small town and there is NO way that the couple of local dealers will have ALL the vehicles for the local market. They simply can't afford to keep that much capital in stock for when you MAYBE want a certain car. Look on their tables, they all have the little printed leaflets that you can get everywhere for free or in newspapers.

Once you come to them with your specific need, they simply also open the brochure and phone up the other dealer. From there they simply network the deal. The original dealer has the car, so 'your' dealer simply pays the original dealer a levy for washing/obtaining the car, and 'your' dealer makes the bulk of the profit (plus any 'additional' costs incurred in getting you the exact vehicle you wanted). But you will pay the full price.


I dont think this used car industry is properly regulated if these guys are allowed to screw us like that. Survival of the fattest cat not fittest.
 

hennie

New member
Hellas 99% of the stuff that a salesman tell you about a car is thumb sucking to secure the sale i had sales training and i spot their tack ticks /tricks
the only honest car salesman is the one without a job because he didn't sell
 

jastam

New member
hennie said:
Hellas 99% of the stuff that a salesman tell you about a car is thumb sucking to secure the sale i had sales training and i spot their tack ticks /tricks
the only honest car salesman is the one without a job because he didn't sell



Now I worry. I will never take a Steak & Kindney pie ever again if the Pepper Steak is sold out and the guy on the other side of the counter suggest just that!!!!!
 
M

Mike1

Guest
Hmmm

No.

But I must say and I find this interesting... Some dealers I find are very honest. Thats why I so badly wanted to work for Mini in town here.

They dont sell cars. They sell a relationship. I love the way they work. People are always happy when they leave there.

There is nothing worse then buying your dream car and having that sinking feeling in your stomach on the way home.

Mike
 
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