BMW Haters

[Coisman]

imp:
So the honda I drove before the bmw... this thing was fullhouse pimped, all but for Turbo or NoS, didn't want to mess up the engine.
Did intake, polished, ported, gasflowed, stage 2 mugen cams, injectors, chipped, custom gearing, full suspention coilover upgrade, 56mm performance exhaust.
There might be more, just cant remember it now. Also big ICE, 2 of each except the cd shuttle. 15" subs, bla bla...
Did 137kw, 203hp on the wheels, and best 1/4 mile time was 12.295 and speed 196.27 at ODI.
I loved this car, but wanted a BMW more, so I let her go.
Here is a pic of how she looked: http://www.zoopedup.com/albums/albu...=Coisman&image=DSC00015 MIX0.JPG&type=profile
imp:
Yes, yes, yes, I know, I love putting stripes on my cars...

 

[WyKiD]

i have footage of me totally annihilating a runx rsi trd from start to finish with my standard e36 325i... will post the footage soon

sounds about right...

RXi at 115kw/157Nm and weighs 1060Kg =
108Kw/ton and 148Nm/ton

e36 325i 141 kW/245 Nm and weighs about 1295 kg =
108Kw/ton and 189Nm/ton

M3 killers no way in hell... if they cant even beat mid range bmws...

RunX Rsi 141kw, the 20v Rxi/Rsi 115kw

 

[moranor@axis]

If i am not mistaken some 20v's have broke into the 13s as well.raise:
I had a runx rsi before i bought my 135i, i dished out enough hiding with my little 1.8, the highlight was when i beat a e90 330i and a 530d(up hill):rollsmile:
My Runx was aprox 175kws, only had exhaust, induction & Chip.
The problem with the runx is that its not the easiest car to drive, get it right and u will be rewarded.

I dont think other than a e36 m3 any other e36 would beat a mildly modified runx, but then again anything happens on the street:thumbs:

my car is also the fastest in the world, but thats because 90% of the people on the street dont know how to drive...

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i have footage of me totally annihilating a runx rsi trd from start to finish with my standard e36 325i... will post the footage soon

sounds about right...

RXi at 115kw/157Nm and weighs 1060Kg =
108Kw/ton and 148Nm/ton

e36 325i 141 kW/245 Nm and weighs about 1295 kg =
108Kw/ton and 189Nm/ton

M3 killers no way in hell... if they cant even beat mid range bmws...

RunX Rsi 141kw, the 20v Rxi/Rsi 115kw

i was talking about the 20v i dont know how much the runX weighs...

 

[Funky Toyz]

i have footage of me totally annihilating a runx rsi trd from start to finish with my standard e36 325i... will post the footage soon

sounds about right...

RXi at 115kw/157Nm and weighs 1060Kg =
108Kw/ton and 148Nm/ton

e36 325i 141 kW/245 Nm and weighs about 1295 kg =
108Kw/ton and 189Nm/ton

M3 killers no way in hell... if they cant even beat mid range bmws...

U quoting figures for the RXI 1600 20V. Imran raced a RunX RSi- 141KW and closer to 200 NM if I'm not mistaken. Weighs a bit more aswell.

But even so, the RXI should be ahead over 400m at the coast.

Gearing - the 20V gearboxes are well geared to match their engines and the acquire their 140-150 odd km/h for the 1/4 mile quite quickly.

Also drivetrain power loss - much more power is lost on the BM than on the 20V.

Like I said, I've owned a 20V and I use kill my couz and his E36 325i with worked gearbox and dunno what diff over 400m - easy.

I drive a BM now though, so even though I do respect the BM a lot...u need to give credit where it is due.

Again to maintain the subject - there is no way a 20V will kill a ///M3 over 400m.

EDIT: Apologies: Only saw the above post after I posted this one.

 

[WyKiD]

If i am not mistaken some 20v's have broke into the 13s as well.raise:
I had a runx rsi before i bought my 135i, i dished out enough hiding with my little 1.8, the highlight was when i beat a e90 330i and a 530d(up hill):rollsmile:
My Runx was aprox 175kws, only had exhaust, induction & Chip.
The problem with the runx is that its not the easiest car to drive, get it right and u will be rewarded.

I dont think other than a e36 m3 any other e36 would beat a mildly modified runx, but then again anything happens on the street:thumbs:

my car is also the fastest in the world, but thats because 90% of the people on the street dont know how to drive...

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i have footage of me totally annihilating a runx rsi trd from start to finish with my standard e36 325i... will post the footage soon

sounds about right...

RXi at 115kw/157Nm and weighs 1060Kg =
108Kw/ton and 148Nm/ton

e36 325i 141 kW/245 Nm and weighs about 1295 kg =
108Kw/ton and 189Nm/ton

M3 killers no way in hell... if they cant even beat mid range bmws...

RunX Rsi 141kw, the 20v Rxi/Rsi 115kw

i was talking about the 20v i dont know how much the runX weighs...

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In Imran's post, comparison was being made to the RunX...

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imp:
So the honda I drove before the bmw... this thing was fullhouse pimped, all but for Turbo or NoS, didn't want to mess up the engine.
Did intake, polished, ported, gasflowed, stage 2 mugen cams, injectors, chipped, custom gearing, full suspention coilover upgrade, 56mm performance exhaust.
There might be more, just cant remember it now. Also big ICE, 2 of each except the cd shuttle. 15" subs, bla bla...
Did 137kw, 203hp on the wheels, and best 1/4 mile time was 12.295 and speed 196.27 at ODI.
I loved this car, but wanted a BMW more, so I let her go.
Here is a pic of how she looked: http://www.zoopedup.com/albums/albu...=Coisman&image=DSC00015 MIX0.JPG&type=profile
imp:
Yes, yes, yes, I know, I love putting stripes on my cars...

Damn, you sure bout those times/exits Cois? Highly modded turbo cars dont even get close?

 

[moranor@axis]

"In Imran's post, comparison was being made to the RunX..."

oops my bad... how much does the runx weigh?

 

[Yuvan]

i have footage of me totally annihilating a runx rsi trd from start to finish with my standard e36 325i... will post the footage soon

Awesome

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If i am not mistaken some 20v's have broke into the 13s as well.raise:
I had a runx rsi before i bought my 135i, i dished out enough hiding with my little 1.8, the highlight was when i beat a e90 330i and a 530d(up hill):rollsmile:
My Runx was aprox 175kws, only had exhaust, induction & Chip.
The problem with the runx is that its not the easiest car to drive, get it right and u will be rewarded.

I dont think other than a e36 m3 any other e36 would beat a mildly modified runx, but then again anything happens on the street:thumbs:

LOL, are you sure the driver of the E90 330i had any idea that u were trying to beat him up hill or even the dude with the 530D, come one seriously now!!!!

This is the typical Toyota driver behaviour i was trying to explain!!!

 

[Imran]

i think the footage will tell the tale, i personally know the guy i raced and he can drive...

1st gear im almost a car ahead with good launch

2nd gear im still a car ahead

3rd gear he closes on me

4th gear he opens up half a car

5th gear i reel him in and pass him @ about 210 kmph and the gap just increases

All done on a private test track

will post footage once i've sorted through the many videos i have of our private race track:thumbs:

 

[DROP IT - ZN]

Truth of the matter...the Xrsi is quick, very quick
Sadly 70% of Xrsi drivers cant drive it to its potential however the few guys that can properly pedal those cars will show tailpipes to an E36 325 anyday...

I drive an Xrsi with just a proper exhaust system quite often so i can personally vouch for my statement

But as far as it killing M3's even with lift reduction software those stories need to start by saying Once upon a time...lol

 

[Funky Toyz]

i think the footage will tell the tale, i personally know the guy i raced and he can drive...

1st gear im almost a car ahead with good launch

2nd gear im still a car ahead

3rd gear he closes on me

4th gear he opens up half a car

5th gear i reel him in and pass him @ about 210 kmph and the gap just increases

All done on a private test track

will post footage once i've sorted through the many videos i have of our private race track:thumbs:

Are u at the coast or at the reef?

Not disputing or anything, but at the coast a stock 325i should'nt really be ahead, at least not until 800m, if the XRSi or 20v is driven properly.
Not once have I experienced this while owning a 20v.

As far as a 20v that has broken into the 13's...I've never heard of it. Fastest has been in the 14's afaik. The 20V Trigger refers to, if it's the one I'm thinking of, is based in DBN and ran at Matuba then the car has some decent mods on it but still NA.

Trigger are you referring to the conquest 20v?

I also know of a strong Toda 20v in DBN - not sure what the times on that car is though.

 

[Coisman]

imp:
Wykid, you right, sorry man. :facepalm:
I asked the wife to go and look up all my old racing stuff, and she gave me the time and speed of my friend, Heinke's 20l vtec civic, well, a 150i civic with a s2000 motor, and turbo.
My time was 14.37 and 153.15km/h

 

[Doomsdaya]

imp:
Wykid, you right, sorry man. :facepalm:
I asked the wife to go and look up all my old racing stuff, and she gave me the time and speed of my friend, Heinke's 20l vtec civic, well, a 150i civic with a s2000 motor, and turbo.
My time was 14.37 and 153.15km/h

LoL @ Coisman :rofl:

Is it possible to fit a S2000 engine in a civic :thinking:

 

[SKYF]

@Yuvan im very sure they were racing as no normal driver spins the tyres from the take off!!
You do the math if my runx was making about 175kws compared to a 330i(190kws) and my car weighs much less would it still be far fetched?
A bmw is great and fast but not unbeatable, other runx's with the same work as me are doing 14.5 to 14.7 on the 1/4 mile, i dont see a standard 330i doing that

 

[clint rusk]

my other donkey i mean car is a toyota fortuner and that does not go fast enough to pick a fight , but can carry load of kids and crap for a weekend .
z3 is mine ALL MINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:

 

[XMAX]

The Runx RSI is a nice car. even with the newer ECU, you have to wring its neck to make it really move. but boy does it move. goes really well. Not the best interior, but the reliability of toyota is legendary, which cannot be denied or argued.


I love BMW but will not deny that those little toyota engines are masterful pieces of engineering. to say that the japs dont know how to engineer a car is utter BS. The lexus ISF, the Lexus LFA, Nissan S2000, Nissan GTR, and a few others are a true indication of engineering genius. They are in no way behind the Germans, nor are they ahead. I think that theyre on par. Just consider the market that they compete in.

the ISUZU's are another great example of Japs doing things right.



Dont hate. Respect them for the vehicles that they are and pity the fools who become fanboys.


The other similar argument is Xbox 360 vs PS3.

 

[Dmonic1]

Kak.... Ps3 Rules!!!! :thumbs:

 

[saturnz]

So much passion for BMW and its engineering, its really good to see.

However I hear what people are saying with regards to BMW and workmanship, but what I see however is supra conversions to M3s and lexus motors in e30s which are becoming common place.

So what you are saying and what is happening are two totally different scenarios.

 

[Dmonic1]

the only reason for supra motors or lexus motors is the used is probably due to them being readily avail and cheaper to modify..

 

[msm]

This is all too single dimensional ito performance. Yes, yes, 1/4 mile times, etc and power outputs are important, but if I can drive from Dbn to JHB and leave the car in 5th/6th gear almost all the way, including places like Van Reenens pass at 80KM/Hr, then that's how I rate a decent motor.

If I gotto work my lazy butt to get the car to move, with 5 million gear changes, then it's not for me. Yes, different strokes for different folks, but this is what the Jap's have failed to understand, in their quest for power.

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The other similar argument is Xbox 360 vs PS3.

Ag, nee man. The X360 vs PS3 is like a Merc vs BMW thing. Bringing Toyota in, is like bringing the Atari name to the current consoles.

 

[Doomsdaya]

Im with MSM :thumb: I also dont like stirring the box to get power not to mention how tiring long distances can be when it comes to overtaking ~)