BMW Haters

[avi]

lol
guys i owned a '98 rsi a few yrs ago n i mus says its a top car in its class, but u jus cant compaRE it to any m3......... TOTALLY DIFF CLASS.

from a personal experience b4 i bought my m3 a frnd of myn always used to tell me hw he opens up m3's and c55 on 1st gear But ever since i got my ///M he neva said that neither did he ask me to race him... he owns a corsa '98 gsi :roflol:

lokl..avi yu must understand that some guys are making between 200-250kw form their STI's, Vtecs, and RSI's.
but thats only between the hours of 21h00 and 06h00 and they must be in dreamland :biglol:

joe : well said

 

[Sankekur]

I like RXI's........the way they sit on my rear bumper going downhill but at the next incline they just become a small speck in my rear view

There is no replacement for displacement

 

[Pr0PheT]

The toyota guys always make me laugh especially with their TRD stickers pasted on each body panel of the car together with some HKS and NOS "go-fast" stickers.

The VTEC guys are another story, they claim its the best technology since sliced bread. Meanwhile I would say most VTEC's are just turbo lag but without a turbo.

 

[avi]

:roflol:

 

[frikkieh]

Jealousy makes you nasty :rollsmile:

 

[Falcon21]

Reminds me of this time I was sitting at a robot. It was about 9pm, and I was on my way home, in no rush at all, in my E46 330d.
This Vtec comes and stops beside me, and starts revving his engine, and acting all badass. The light goes green, and screeching tires, he goes all out.

I'm like "What ever", and carry on normally. I drive up to him at the next red robot, and same thing. He's revving his engine beside me. I lol'ed, and went "why not". Robot goes green, and he had nothing on me, lol. (Wish I could've seen his face, when he saw a diesel kick his ass so badly) :biglol:

At least he was a good sport; at the next robot, he hooted and gave me a thumbs up.

 

[WyKiD]

mmm...where are all the "tec and rsi/rxi" drivers....still waiting for lift and v-tec to kick in........:rollsmile:

 

[JpRoux]

I can top this thread of by. Taking a photo of a box toy, that has m3 replica rims.. i mean 13", with the bmw badge on the centre cap...so going to do that. :rollsmile:

 

[mr t]

lol what about the guys that drives vtecs?

LOL...not much of them left, most of them crashed thier beloved V-tecs! Vtec was a good car though!!!

You obviously do not live in Cape Town. LOL. CT is littered with sti's,20v's and vtec's. Those cars are good for what they are...means of transport. As far as engineering goes, there's really nothing like German Engineering, this is coming from a MechEng student. They Germans are great. Besides when last did you hear of Japanese Engineering? Hehehe. From a reliabity point of view, the Jap cars/engines are generally more reliable, but thats only because they generally don't push the boundaries(Honda S2000 excluded) as far as performance N/A cars go. Thus, tolerances are greater, Comp ratio's are lower and milder cams are used, all improving reliabity. When it comes to forced induction, especially Turbocharging the Japs are also quite good, but simply because they have being doing this for years... think skyline, supra, wrx sti and so on. But ja, those frikkin 20v, sti and vtec okes irritate me. More so their ignorance. Niks Torque maar hulle wil praat. The other day I google the 3.1 vr6 conversion for interest sake, and a thread on the Nismo forum somehow popped up... "200sti vs E46 M3" I cant remember what the mods the sti guy had, but even the Nismonians knew he was talking thru his poophole.

 

[Coisman]

imp:
Ok, guys, enough with the badmouthing of the toyota's and the hondas!! :nono:
I drove both ok, and I will tell you my 1986 toyota corolla gli twincam kicked ass!! It was so bad-ass that when I pulled off quick the spare-wheel would start to spin!! :mmm:
I also drove a 1998 honda ballade 160i vtec, yes, the proper vtec, not the "i-vtec", and that thing was so fast, that if you pulled off at a set of lights with that thing, the 2 front doors would move back and over-lap the rear doors, making it look like a coupe!! :mmm:
There was lots of times I took on M3's, and I will tell you, I always won, ok! So who cares if they were parked next to the road?? :mmm: Not my fault the owner didn't know how to start his car and try to beat me!! :mmm:
So there you go, to all the twincam and vtec haters out there... screw you with your bmw's, you aint got nothing against me!!

 

[msm]

A very large percentage of Toyota drivers think they have the ultimate driving machine, simply because they have not driven anything else :nonono:

 

[moranor@axis]

if its not Rwd or 4wd its not a real car :rollsmile:

 

[Legacy]

if its not Rwd or 4wd its not a real car :rollsmile:

What about a Mini... ?
:fencelook:

 

[Hellas]

The truth. It hurts.

 

[Falcon21]

Don't know if I should LOL, or :wtf: or :facepalm:

 

[Sankekur]

You should :facepalm:

 

[XMAX]

:biglol: at Coisman.


:roflol: @ Hellas. In dbn, theres a Ford Escort MkIII that has an e36 front end. Looking from the front you would definitely think that its a BMW. Its even a BMW Colour (cant remember whether Daytona Violet or Avus Blue, was way too drunk at the car shows to remember correctly). walk around to the side and then youll see that its a Ford Escort Hatchback. Thats a serious LOL


Guys, whats with all the jap hating. I love the Japanese cars.I especially love the box shape Toyota Corolla. you know the one im speaking about. The one with the square lights and RWD. If I could get hold of a neat one of those, I would.


Sure I love BMW and will be loyal to the brand for the rest of my life, but I have alot of respect for those RSI, RXI, GLi's. Lots of power from a little engine. For front wheel drives they handled pretty decently also. In a true test, put an e36 316i against a 20v and see what happens.


We shouldnt only paint the Jap guys the same way. Ive seen plenty a Mk1 Golf with a cone filter do crazy things. You guys should go to Chamberlain Road in Jacobs, Dbn and see how crazy some of these Golfies get.

Some of the owners of these cars are daft c@#ts but we have the same in the BMW Community as well. Ive heard of guys with N55s claim to take on a Lambo, or e46 M3s destroying Ferraris. Im not hating on Beemers, just saying that there are these idiots in the BMW stable as well.





I have no idea what I might be saying. Heavily drugged on Synape Forte. Please forgive any stupidity.... it was an interesting drive to work this morning.

 

[Trigger]

Agree with Xmax, the cars are brilliant, its some of the stupid drivers that are the problem!!!

As for Jap technology:

1. GLi twincam - 96kw from a 1587cc engine in 1988
2. RSI 20v - 115kw from a 1587cc engine in 1997 in S.A but the silvertop version was in production from 1992 in Japan!
3. RunX RSi - 141kw from a 1.8l motor in 2003
4. Lexus LF-A N'ring edition - 419Kw from a 4.8l V10 NA and has set the 10th fastest lap time at the nurburgring on street tires!
5. Toyota's 1.33 engine in the new Corolla/Auris - 74kw/132nm
6. AurisX 1.6 - 97kw valvetronic motor
7. Auris 2.2 D4D motor - 135kw/400nm (only found overseas though)

Compare it class for class and the Toyota motors were always the best out there:thumbs:

I havent included Honda/Nissan here but if I did, the S2000 and GT-R says it all. The Germz have the M3 as the technological wonder though:tease:

 

[msm]

3. RunX RSi - 141kw from a 1.8l motor in 2003

For the record, that was claimed output. I had a 110KW GTI at the time and a few friends had the RSI. To summarize a long story, that car did not make that power when standard.

 

[Trigger]

MSM, initially they had the wrong ECU on the first batch of RSI's - and they made only 126KW, but they did a recall and with the correct ECU made the claimed power/close to it.

Either way, which other 1.8l motor came close to that power? If I remember correctly, the E46 325i made 141Kw?