BMW 335i Coupe vs M3 Coupe

[DieselFan]

Stock vs stock is a no brainer. Modding the M3 however will cost 10X as much as the 335i....take a FBO 335i with upgraded turbos (such as RB) against a modded M3 (with supercharger upgrade).....335i still comes up top. Think there was quite a few 335i`s from the N54 forums that raced against supercharged M3 at various air strip attacks...

The 335i comes ontop?? No... 135i, maybe, but not 335i. Also, there are a lot of M3's with low boost setups that give a proper boosted M3 bad names. I;ve also read many forum posts were guys boast about beating a supercharged M3. When asked what stage kit the M3 was running, they all forget to mention it was a 3psi supercharged M3 and they all suddenly think they are faster than all supercharged M3's. Try a 9psi M3.

I don't want to sound like a doos, so don't take my post the wrong way man, I'm just stating facts and love both cars. But the N54 in the 335i is not as great as the N54 in the 135i.

Here is a VT 600 ESS supercharged e92 vs one of the fastest RB turbo 335i with JB4's around... So no, the 335i does not come on top.

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here is another video of an ess VT 625 M3... watch runs 7 and 8. Both 335i's lose. But on Run 10, that little 135i beats the M3 with RB turbos, meth and BMS tune with 85 gas. That little car is a monster. Also watch Run 11, stock turbo'd FBO e85 335i gets destroyed. Seeing the pattern yet?

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Another 335i with RB turbos, FBO, Meth etc against a mid level supercharged M3.
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Needless to say, the M3 in the second video had a passenger in all races, as well as his window down... also, a VT 600 and 625 are mid level supercharger kit for the e92, boosting only 6psi. The Vt 650 and 700 kits boost 8-9psi respectively. I'd love to see the race between the 135i and the M3 with a VT700 kit. Regarding cost, if you drive an M3, it is going to cost more, but that being said, it's not exactly 10x the price and can easily be installed at home, thus reducing install costs. I've installed 2 supercharger setups on my own cars, one of which is an M3.

So no... A fully modded 335i cannot beat a semi modded (mid stage supercharged) e92 M3. They come close, very close and are damn fast, but still lose.

Single turbo on n54 would probably yield different results.

For the cost of the 335i with 10k in mods to destroy an m3 it's the logical way to go for most. Most guys don't want to lay down big money on supercharger kits. Do the bigger kits on the m3 not require forged internals?

 

[Hilly335i]

Stock vs stock is a no brainer. Modding the M3 however will cost 10X as much as the 335i....take a FBO 335i with upgraded turbos (such as RB) against a modded M3 (with supercharger upgrade).....335i still comes up top. Think there was quite a few 335i`s from the N54 forums that raced against supercharged M3 at various air strip attacks...

The 335i comes ontop?? No... 135i, maybe, but not 335i. Also, there are a lot of M3's with low boost setups that give a proper boosted M3 bad names. I;ve also read many forum posts were guys boast about beating a supercharged M3. When asked what stage kit the M3 was running, they all forget to mention it was a 3psi supercharged M3 and they all suddenly think they are faster than all supercharged M3's. Try a 9psi M3.

I don't want to sound like a doos, so don't take my post the wrong way man, I'm just stating facts and love both cars. But the N54 in the 335i is not as great as the N54 in the 135i.

Here is a VT 600 ESS supercharged e92 vs one of the fastest RB turbo 335i with JB4's around... So no, the 335i does not come on top.

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here is another video of an ess VT 625 M3... watch runs 7 and 8. Both 335i's lose. But on Run 10, that little 135i beats the M3 with RB turbos, meth and BMS tune with 85 gas. That little car is a monster. Also watch Run 11, stock turbo'd FBO e85 335i gets destroyed. Seeing the pattern yet?

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Another 335i with RB turbos, FBO, Meth etc against a mid level supercharged M3.
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and another
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and another
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Needless to say, the M3 in the second video had a passenger in all races, as well as his window down... also, a VT 600 and 625 are mid level supercharger kit for the e92, boosting only 6psi. The Vt 650 and 700 kits boost 8-9psi respectively. I'd love to see the race between the 135i and the M3 with a VT700 kit. Regarding cost, if you drive an M3, it is going to cost more, but that being said, it's not exactly 10x the price and can easily be installed at home, thus reducing install costs. I've installed 2 supercharger setups on my own cars, one of which is an M3.

So no... A fully modded 335i cannot beat a semi modded (mid stage supercharged) e92 M3. They come close, very close and are damn fast, but still lose.

Single turbo on n54 would probably yield different results.

For the cost of the 335i with 10k in mods to destroy an m3 it's the logical way to go for most. Most guys don't want to lay down big money on supercharger kits. Do the bigger kits on the m3 not require forged internals?

^^^ good point...I should have actually mentioned the single turbo instead of the RB`s .....the point I am "trying" to convey is that a modded 335i has the capabilities of beating a supercharged M3 for a lot less.

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The guy`s name in this video I believe goes by Captain Insano and actually had the fastest e9X chassis at the event (including beating ESS VT750 m3), with this video his car wasn't at full boost. His car is actually a 335i.......as you can see in the video :rollsmile:

Not trying to stir the pot as this subject has been beaten to death :hammerhead:. Just saying that the 335i is great value for the money as far as the kind of potential it has to offer compared to other BMW`s out there

 

[S1NGH 911]

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[ChrisBrand]

Vid is just for pure fun. Cant be compared. So all this pee pee swinging and mine is 2 inches longer than yours is unecessary.

 

[Woodies]

Ha ha, love these races between the 335 and the M3.
Fully modded M3 will always out perform a fully modded 335 (come on its an M!) I drive a 335 and its amazing, value for money and bang for your buck! M3 would cost more to mod than the 335, but a 3l straight 6 can't beat a 4l V8. The 335 is just so easy to mod and improve, where as the stock M3 is already so damn good, its harder to improve hence it costs more.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[ASH M]

Here we have this debate again. Plenty threads on this over the years haha.

Anyway, I won't get into the power debate.

As a overall vehicle the M3 wins hands down. No matter what you do it'll always be better. If you drive/driven one you will know. How a 335 handles it's power on the road or around bends I don't know. My 330i e90 that basically ran the same chassis, suspension and brakes as its bigger brother 335 will never come close to the M3 even with more power. So having all this power can it be actually used properly at all times? Well in the M3 it can, why? Because it was designed to from the start and took many years, many engineers and a whole lot of money to get the M3 where it is today.


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[Bernard///M3]

If I'm not mistaken the new M3/M4 has a S55 motor, what's the difference to the N55 motor?

Even BMW has realized the power of the 35s and put it or a similar motor into the new M cars. I wonder if they used research and development of 35s to develop the new Ms

The e92 M3 is still a sort after car, I would love one be it faster or slower who cares!! And it will become a legend being the only M3 with a V8 motor, actually if I had bucks I would have each of the M3 models.

 

[DieselFan]

If I'm not mistaken the new M3/M4 has a S55 motor, what's the difference to the N55 motor?

Even BMW has realized the power of the 35s and put it or a similar motor into the new M cars. I wonder if they used research and development of 35s to develop the new Ms

The e92 M3 is still a sort after car, I would love one be it faster or slower who cares!! And it will become a legend being the only M3 with a V8 motor, actually if I had bucks I would have each of the M3 models.

S55 is twin turbod like the n54 in sure there's a bunch of other differences aswell.

 

[Bernard///M3]

If I'm not mistaken the new M3/M4 has a S55 motor, what's the difference to the N55 motor?

Even BMW has realized the power of the 35s and put it or a similar motor into the new M cars. I wonder if they used research and development of 35s to develop the new Ms

The e92 M3 is still a sort after car, I would love one be it faster or slower who cares!! And it will become a legend being the only M3 with a V8 motor, actually if I had bucks I would have each of the M3 models.

S55 is twin turbod like the n54 in sure there's a bunch of other differences aswell.

JA im sure there are a number of other differences, but basically what I was trying to say is that the N55 evolved from the N54 and the S55 has evolved from the N54 & N55

I suppose now there won't be any stock N55s beating Stock Ms at any level be it sea level or in land

 

[200ts]

I am pretty sure that BMW brought out the N54 back in 07 with the goal of adding it to the M, I bought my first 335i back then and there were a few issues, over time these engines were refined and perfected in time for the new M.

This is my opinion so not trying to diss x35i's.... although the x35i is a great motor but that's all it is, a x20i could look the same bar the exhaust and engine.

I moved to the M3 for the overall package and never looked back. I do miss boost(but that's why I still have the TS) and have no doubt that a modded x35i is quicker than a stock M at the reef but it is not better through the bends or sideways, unless you do some major work on the suspension/diff etc. this has been proven.

I guess it comes down to personal preference at the end of the day, both are great cars.

Have had a few runs with a JB4 135i and I am always ahead albeit marginally at the reef up to 250km/h, I have a full exhaust no S/W. Not sure of the map on the x35i, but it was probably a conservative one.


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