Att newbies: Free lighting advise (Xenon kit related)

msm

Well-known member
While this trend seems to be more prolific with CitiGolf's, I notice more and more BMW drivers doing it: Putting xenon kits in halogen housing, so here's some free advise for noobies - use it, don't use.

If you feel the lighting in your car is too dim and want to upgrade, there are 4 possible solutions:

1) Option 1 is to go to the scrapyard and find yourself an OEM set of complete xenon lights with the housing. Might require some coding or wire splicing, but there's guys on the forum that can help you. The biggest challenge is that it is very difficult to obtain a set, especially for older cars (and the newer ones are very expensive)

2) Option 2 is to retrofit a decent lens in front of the aftermarket xenon bulbs to allow the lights to project onto the road properly. Without this you simply create lots of glare for oncoming traffic - to put it bluntly you're an inconsiderate idiot for blinding oncoming traffic. A simple (and correct) lens in front of the bulb allows the light to focus down on the road with some cut-off so it does not shine all over the place and blind other drivers. This does require some work and once again there's people on the forum that can help or do it for you (at a fee)

3) Option 3 is to fit a darker Lamin-X (or similar) tint when using a xenon kit. This reduces the glare substantially.

4) Option 4 is to avoid the xenon kits altogether and buy a good set of high end halogen globes (e.g. Osram Nightbreakers, Phillips Extreme, etc).

Halogen globes work best in halogen housing - xenon kits/globes do not. If you want to do it, please do it properly or leave it alone.

NB: I don't sell or fit these kits, so please don't PM for info. Put up a question on the forum and ask. There's lots of helpful members here, so don't feel shy to ask - better asking than doing the wrong thing!


BTW, sorry for the harsh tone on the post - but this simply drives me crazy :argh:
 

Caddy101

Active member
:thumbs:

Nice post.

It is very annoying to come around a bend and have your sight assaulted by an idiot in a Citi Golf.
 

Sheldon13

Member
Option 6: Fit the xenon bulbs to standard halogen headlights without a projector. Then leave your car at home and take the taxi so that you dont phuck other peoples vision with your shite lights

:biglol::biglol::biglol:
 

ChrisBrand

Staff - Legal
Staff member
Ive noticed a new trend on CPT roads. You drive with your High Beams/Flash lights on the whole time.

I indicate to at least two people every day on the road to switch off their high beams when they are behind me and they just ignore and keep on going.

But Xenon lights without projectors have the same effect
 

msm

Well-known member
Heven said:
Option 5: buy the projector kit from vsomai on the forum.

That would fall under option 2, as the projectors are basically the lens that I'm referring to :thumbs:


RAArmstrong said:
I guess if you have a facelift E39 with projector lenses its easy enough to retro fit xenons?

You'd just need to check the focus on the lens. Worst case scenario is to swap the lens out, as the projector holder is already there. Best case scenario is that it focuses fine with some tweaking. At least a million times better than the standard halogen "bowls" on the later cars though.
 

kabal

Active member
RAArmstrong said:
I guess if you have a facelift E39 with projector lenses its easy enough to retro fit xenons?

chances are this will not work.

the only thing that H1 halogen and H1 xenon have in common is the base.

the light source / filament position in a halogen is in a different place to where the xenon arc occurs.

also a halogen H1, has a "shield" in the front of the bulb, the output light that is seen is from light that has travelled backwards/downwards/upwards/etc, and has then been "focused" by the bowl.
a xenon H1 does not have this shield

The reflector bowl in the halogen projector has been designed to bounce light correctly, assuming that the light source is at position X.

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AdiS

Well-known member
Good post MSM! I second this as well. You can spot it a mile a way when someone has fitted an HID kit into halogen housings without a xenon projector.
 
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