Am I crazy? E90 trade-in

[DuckKnuckle]

Hey guys,

So I've been driving my E90 325i for almost 18 months now, and I'm absolutely loving it. What I'm not loving is the fuel consumption.

I've been thinking about trading it in for something that could offer much better economy but sacrifice performance. I've had my fun and I don't mind thinking long term now.

I've been looking at the E91 320d and the E83 X3 2.0d. They offer great economy and could meet my requirements of transporting my drums. I was overcome with excitement when I purchased my 325i so I didn't consider my drums at all. The 325i just isn't practical

Any advice you guys could possibly give?


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[Lizzard]

what is the 325i giving you on fuel consumption?

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And you cant compare a diesel to a petrol, in this case a 325i with a 320d.

These are 2 different beasts, where you gain the power in torque of the turbo you loss the kw in performance, so if that isn't a concern and you don't race the car then you should be sorted with the 320d and you cant go wrong in one, just remember that the turbo will need to be serviced frequently and the cost is around R14K with labour, so take that into consideration when making this decision. You will get more kilometers out of the car, that is a fact like 6 - 7 L/100km whereby you are currently sitting on 10 - 13L / 100km.

Between us, the 320i, 325i, 330i (mine) they all use about the same fuel when driving them decently around the 10 - 13L mark. the only difference being "the hammer down sometimes" with that push feeling you get.

If you going to transport drums, sounds like it in your post then you might need to settle for the x3, 320d. but remember that the X3 might be heavier in fuel due to it's weight.

 

[tman]

Hey guys,

So I've been driving my E90 325i for almost 18 months now, and I'm absolutely loving it. What I'm not loving is the fuel consumption.

I've been thinking about trading it in for something that could offer much better economy but sacrifice performance. I've had my fun and I don't mind thinking long term now.

I've been looking at the E91 320d and the E83 X3 2.0d. They offer great economy and could meet my requirements of transporting my drums. I was overcome with excitement when I purchased my 325i so I didn't consider my drums at all. The 325i just isn't practical

Any advice you guys could possibly give?


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Is your 325i financed, or did you buy cash?

If cash, consider it. The potential saving in fuel cost will be a drop in the ocean compared to the total cost of finance.

 

[DuckKnuckle]

Hey guys,

So I've been driving my E90 325i for almost 18 months now, and I'm absolutely loving it. What I'm not loving is the fuel consumption.

I've been thinking about trading it in for something that could offer much better economy but sacrifice performance. I've had my fun and I don't mind thinking long term now.

I've been looking at the E91 320d and the E83 X3 2.0d. They offer great economy and could meet my requirements of transporting my drums. I was overcome with excitement when I purchased my 325i so I didn't consider my drums at all. The 325i just isn't practical

Any advice you guys could possibly give?


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Is your 325i financed, or did you buy cash?

If cash, consider it. The potential saving in fuel cost will be a drop in the ocean compared to the total cost of finance.

It's currently financed, and if traded in, I get ~R40k as a deposit.

My combined consumption on the 325i is sitting at 12l/100km and the best I've hit is 11.3l/100km.

I'm really not looking for power, hence the 2l diesel option.

I know the cars in my price range are outside of MotorPlan and I'm happy to pick up a third party warranty as I do have one on my car currently.

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[Dewald Basson]

Hey guys,

So I've been driving my E90 325i for almost 18 months now, and I'm absolutely loving it. What I'm not loving is the fuel consumption.

I've been thinking about trading it in for something that could offer much better economy but sacrifice performance. I've had my fun and I don't mind thinking long term now.

I've been looking at the E91 320d and the E83 X3 2.0d. They offer great economy and could meet my requirements of transporting my drums. I was overcome with excitement when I purchased my 325i so I didn't consider my drums at all. The 325i just isn't practical

Any advice you guys could possibly give?


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Is your 325i financed, or did you buy cash?

If cash, consider it. The potential saving in fuel cost will be a drop in the ocean compared to the total cost of finance.

It's currently financed, and if traded in, I get ~R40k as a deposit.

My combined consumption on the 325i is sitting at 12l/100km and the best I've hit is 11.3l/100km.

I'm really not looking for power, hence the 2l diesel option.

I know the cars in my price range are outside of MotorPlan and I'm happy to pick up a third party warranty as I do have one on my car currently.

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40k is a rip off, buy a cheap bakkie as a daily.

 

[Lizzard]

Ok, consider your options and then see if it is worth the extra debt for a slower car with slightly better fuel consumption, remember that if you hammer the 320d you will still be sitting at 10 - 11L / 100km (my friend has one and got it just 2 months ago, he still struggling to get the consumption down to the acceptable 8L mark, and he doesn't hammer it all the time, city traffic and both of their weight counting against him)

PROS
- if driving politely you will gain 4L more per 100km, meaning you will sit at around 6 - 8L / 100km
- Better fuel consumption

CONS
- you will have less power than the 325i, it will feel slow
- Turbo service around R14K needs to be added to the service plan
- Focus on start up and stops to allow the turbo to cool down properly
- same car (if not the X3)
- Extra debt and only R40k for your current 325i

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

, remember that if you hammer the 320d you will still be sitting at 10 - 11L / 100km (my friend has one and got it just 2 months ago, he still struggling to get the consumption down to the acceptable 8L mark, and he doesn't hammer it all the time, city traffic and both of their weight counting against him)

I hammered mine all the time, never went over 7.5l/100km. I suggest your buddy has his car checked bru. Something wrong. normal driving say 6l/100km and open road around 5.2-5.4l/100km

 

[iceman_997]

, remember that if you hammer the 320d you will still be sitting at 10 - 11L / 100km (my friend has one and got it just 2 months ago, he still struggling to get the consumption down to the acceptable 8L mark, and he doesn't hammer it all the time, city traffic and both of their weight counting against him)

I hammered mine all the time, never went over 7.5l/100km. I suggest your buddy has his car checked bru. Something wrong. normal driving say 6l/100km and open road around 5.2-5.4l/100km

Definitely something wrong there, I have a 330d, hammering it I do 7.6l/100kms and normal open road goes down to 4.8l/100km. Combined cycle is sitting at 5.9l/100kms...

 

[MikeR]

Ok, consider your options and then see if it is worth the extra debt for a slower car with slightly better fuel consumption, remember that if you hammer the 320d you will still be sitting at 10 - 11L / 100km (my friend has one and got it just 2 months ago, he still struggling to get the consumption down to the acceptable 8L mark, and he doesn't hammer it all the time, city traffic and both of their weight counting against him)

PROS
- if driving politely you will gain 4L more per 100km, meaning you will sit at around 6 - 8L / 100km
- Better fuel consumption

CONS
- you will have less power than the 325i, it will feel slow
- Turbo service around R14K needs to be added to the service plan
- Focus on start up and stops to allow the turbo to cool down properly
- same car (if not the X3)
- Extra debt and only R40k for your current 325i

I also hammer my 2.0 Tdi and I get about 8...I also think your mates car has issues.
I also have 165000 and never needed the turbo serviced, I dont understand why you would. when it dies then so be it time for a new one, R14k for a service seems rather high:skit:, I think a new one is that price.
In fact my first 330d also did almost 200 000 and turbo never touched. yes you need to service the Diesel more often than petrol! there is not that much saving if u balance it out.
but to but a second car (bakkie) you have added costs like insurance and maintenance to add, and licensing every year..
I think he should look at the option of the X3 - as its a dual function if thats going to work for him.

 

[AshG108]

Ok, consider your options and then see if it is worth the extra debt for a slower car with slightly better fuel consumption, remember that if you hammer the 320d you will still be sitting at 10 - 11L / 100km (my friend has one and got it just 2 months ago, he still struggling to get the consumption down to the acceptable 8L mark, and he doesn't hammer it all the time, city traffic and both of their weight counting against him)

PROS
- if driving politely you will gain 4L more per 100km, meaning you will sit at around 6 - 8L / 100km
- Better fuel consumption

CONS
- you will have less power than the 325i, it will feel slow
- Turbo service around R14K needs to be added to the service plan
- Focus on start up and stops to allow the turbo to cool down properly
- same car (if not the X3)
- Extra debt and only R40k for your current 325i

Hey bud,

can i disagree with the above to certain extent and more base don my experience and experience of a few:

The power on the 320d will not feel slow at all, actually more alive if the gent is at the reef. The long legs will be missed but how often do you stretch the legs of a car with our roads and policing nowadays.
Cooling down of a turbo does need to happen on a BMW, unless you bashing it crazy and want to park it off (It isn't and doesnt suffer from the Polo Sportline cautions)
turbo service is done once every 200 000kms and some cars even go further...a 320d can cost anything from R900 - R3000 in services depending on what needs to be serviced and also WHO is servicing it for you.

X3 won't be heavier on fuel unless its an X-Drive which makes it heavier, the S-Drive X3 is actually very economical for a vehicle of its size and not far of at all from the 320d consumption.

:coolShake:

 

[Lizzard]

We replaced his turbo a month ago as it broke, was a sad day for him, it is there when we phoned around to get the prices and found a 2nd hand one for R6K, they wanted R14K for refurbished one and then BMW was quoting us like something in the R20K+ for a new one.

Noted, I will inform him to take it to his mechanic to have the car checked for the usage seeing that we have a lot of hammers :crazylaugh: here and they do well with their fuel management :tiptoe:

DuckKnuckle, you can't go wrong with the choice of 320d as you want something lighter on fuel, they have a great punch and just need to be looked after. And seeing by the guys comments here, awesome as well. :rollsmile:

 

[131GAV]

Hey guys,

So I've been driving my E90 325i for almost 18 months now, and I'm absolutely loving it. What I'm not loving is the fuel consumption.

I've been thinking about trading it in for something that could offer much better economy but sacrifice performance. I've had my fun and I don't mind thinking long term now.

I've been looking at the E91 320d and the E83 X3 2.0d. They offer great economy and could meet my requirements of transporting my drums. I was overcome with excitement when I purchased my 325i so I didn't consider my drums at all. The 325i just isn't practical

Any advice you guys could possibly give?


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Is your 325i financed, or did you buy cash?

If cash, consider it. The potential saving in fuel cost will be a drop in the ocean compared to the total cost of finance.

It's currently financed, and if traded in, I get ~R40k as a deposit.

My combined consumption on the 325i is sitting at 12l/100km and the best I've hit is 11.3l/100km.

I'm really not looking for power, hence the 2l diesel option.

I know the cars in my price range are outside of MotorPlan and I'm happy to pick up a third party warranty as I do have one on my car currently.

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40k is a rip off, buy a cheap bakkie as a daily.

I think he meant a 40k deposit for his new car after he settles the finanace house..

 

[Pho3niX90]

Get the diesel. If you do crave more power afterwards then get software done. At the end the diesel is a better investment

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[Dewald Basson]

Hey guys,

So I've been driving my E90 325i for almost 18 months now, and I'm absolutely loving it. What I'm not loving is the fuel consumption.

I've been thinking about trading it in for something that could offer much better economy but sacrifice performance. I've had my fun and I don't mind thinking long term now.

I've been looking at the E91 320d and the E83 X3 2.0d. They offer great economy and could meet my requirements of transporting my drums. I was overcome with excitement when I purchased my 325i so I didn't consider my drums at all. The 325i just isn't practical

Any advice you guys could possibly give?


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Is your 325i financed, or did you buy cash?

If cash, consider it. The potential saving in fuel cost will be a drop in the ocean compared to the total cost of finance.

It's currently financed, and if traded in, I get ~R40k as a deposit.

My combined consumption on the 325i is sitting at 12l/100km and the best I've hit is 11.3l/100km.

I'm really not looking for power, hence the 2l diesel option.

I know the cars in my price range are outside of MotorPlan and I'm happy to pick up a third party warranty as I do have one on my car currently.

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40k is a rip off, buy a cheap bakkie as a daily.

I think he meant a 40k deposit for his new car after he settles the finanace house..

:hammerhead:


Still get a second cheap car as a round about. That is what I would do just my 2c

 

[DuckKnuckle]

Yeah I've had my fun in the 325i. I come from a Golf 3 GS so I'm happy to return to something more practical and less fun. And yes, after settling my remaining balance, I'll have ~R40k as a deposit.

The X3 would be nice and lighter than my 325, but it does come in at a higher price. But the rugged nature of the X3 (compared to my 325) makes it quite appealing as I travel with my dog a lot. I'll take a look at the E91 as there is one for sale near me.

Both are in the 130 XXXKM range, so is there anything I should look at or be wary of?

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[moranor@axis]

modded wagons are awesome just saying :rollsmile:

 

[Philip Foglar]

You need Dax's old E91 320d!

I gather you are living and mostly driving around Cape Town central? The problem with the E90 petrol six's is that they are only acceptably frugal when they are on the open road or at some sort of cruising speed. The moment you sit still in traffic they just eat fuel (this is where the modern Stop-Start tech would help a bit), and then the pulling off and moving at low speeds is also not where these engines are at their best in terms of fuel usage. Over the years I have adopted my driving style to make full use of the econometer and am usually able to keep my economy down, but I don't sit in traffic much, if at all, and I avoid short trips. A diesel has a massive advantage of being able to idle literally on the "sniff of a rag", so sitting in traffic is not really a problem at all, and driving around in traffic is also not nearly as bad. If you put the hammer down, then it will use more fuel, but still less than a petrol equivalent.

The E91 320d or the E83 X3 2.0d are both good options, maybe the the X3 more so for your needs, and I reckon probably more available to choose from. Not sure if gearbox type is a preference, but both should be available on both of these cars, but I seem to think you will have more luck finding automatics than manuals. My father in law in fact just bought a 2.5i E83 xDrive automatic and it is quite a nice car, but yes, heavy on fuel from what I can see.

I would shop around and see what is all out there.

 

[DuckKnuckle]

You need Dax's old E91 320d!

I gather you are living and mostly driving around Cape Town central? The problem with the E90 petrol six's is that they are only acceptably frugal when they are on the open road or at some sort of cruising speed. The moment you sit still in traffic they just eat fuel (this is where the modern Stop-Start tech would help a bit), and then the pulling off and moving at low speeds is also not where these engines are at their best in terms of fuel usage. Over the years I have adopted my driving style to make full use of the econometer and am usually able to keep my economy down, but I don't sit in traffic much, if at all, and I avoid short trips. A diesel has a massive advantage of being able to idle literally on the "sniff of a rag", so sitting in traffic is not really a problem at all, and driving around in traffic is also not nearly as bad. If you put the hammer down, then it will use more fuel, but still less than a petrol equivalent.

The E91 320d or the E83 X3 2.0d are both good options, maybe the the X3 more so for your needs, and I reckon probably more available to choose from. Not sure if gearbox type is a preference, but both should be available on both of these cars, but I seem to think you will have more luck finding automatics than manuals. My father in law in fact just bought a 2.5i E83 xDrive automatic and it is quite a nice car, but yes, heavy on fuel from what I can see.

I would shop around and see what is all out there.

Correct. Blouberg to CBD down the R27 at 06h00. Enough cars to cause me to come to a standstill more than I'd prefer.

I found a fairly well priced xDrive 2.0d but people are saying it's heaver than the sDrive. Why is this?

My dog is also getting quite large, so the cabin size of the X3 is appealing to me a lot more. I'll keep looking around.

Really appreciate all the responses here guys.

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[S1NGH 911]

Ok, consider your options and then see if it is worth the extra debt for a slower car with slightly better fuel consumption, remember that if you hammer the 320d you will still be sitting at 10 - 11L / 100km (my friend has one and got it just 2 months ago, he still struggling to get the consumption down to the acceptable 8L mark, and he doesn't hammer it all the time, city traffic and both of their weight counting against him)

PROS
- if driving politely you will gain 4L more per 100km, meaning you will sit at around 6 - 8L / 100km
- Better fuel consumption

CONS
- you will have less power than the 325i, it will feel slow
- Turbo service around R14K needs to be added to the service plan
- Focus on start up and stops to allow the turbo to cool down properly
- same car (if not the X3)
- Extra debt and only R40k for your current 325i

Absolute hogwash :bin:

320d Lci will kill the 325i anyday, coast or reef 320d will kill it!

Turbo's aren't troublesome.

Your friends 320d is broken :blueCry:

 

[Iceman007]

Ok from experience I've owned a E90 325i LCi auto and fuel was killing me and having to drive like miss daisy to try and save. what's the use just for the sound track it does not make sense. I can tell you this though an f30 320d kicks its ass in all ways. the only way the 325i will win the 320d is from 200kmh up words and only by a bit maybe.

My advice get a E90 320d or an F30 320d and you wont regret it. your fuel cost will be cut in half atleast. Just remember I am talking from experience. I suggest just go and test drive an E90 and an F30 320d and come give us your review.

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Ok, consider your options and then see if it is worth the extra debt for a slower car with slightly better fuel consumption, remember that if you hammer the 320d you will still be sitting at 10 - 11L / 100km (my friend has one and got it just 2 months ago, he still struggling to get the consumption down to the acceptable 8L mark, and he doesn't hammer it all the time, city traffic and both of their weight counting against him)

PROS
- if driving politely you will gain 4L more per 100km, meaning you will sit at around 6 - 8L / 100km
- Better fuel consumption

CONS
- you will have less power than the 325i, it will feel slow
- Turbo service around R14K needs to be added to the service plan
- Focus on start up and stops to allow the turbo to cool down properly
- same car (if not the X3)
- Extra debt and only R40k for your current 325i

Absolute hogwash :bin:

320d Lci will kill the 325i anyday, coast or reef 320d will kill it!

Turbo's aren't troublesome.

Your friends 320d is broken :blueCry:

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