Advice needed BMW DAKAR F 650 GS, Red bull edition

[EBZ911]

Hi to all the bikers out there,

I was wondering if any of you would be kind enough to share you thoughts on the abovementioned bike.

There is one for sale, the seller is asking for R45000 with 48000kms on the clock.

I will post the link so you can have a look, I am not very clued up on these type of bikes, so all opinions will be appreciated. Is this a good price to pay? Would this be regarded as low kilos? Any known issues with this bike? etc.

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-motorcy...ar-red-bull-edition/1005461293590910009046509

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[Zack]

Hi Bud

Not really an expert on these bikes (but asked a friend that had a similar one). They are very much bulletproof depending on the previous owners history with regards to how often it was taken offroad and the driving conditions. He mentioned the following;

The water pump has plastic gears. Check the service history on coolant maintenance, otherwise it can be a issue down the line. The actual pump seals can also be an issue. Not a major fix though, but check for seaps and leaks.

They can be prone to bearing issues (head and wheel bearings) if it was a regular offroader.

For obvious reasons make sure to check that all the electrics works. The wiring loom are also known to damage with age and a "faulty indicator" or headlight can be signs of more than just a bulb.

Also obviously, there should be no cold start smoke.

Hope this helps :thumbs:

 

[Nick]

What do you want to do on it?

 

[tr0jan]

Its too expensive, even if in a perfect condition. You should pay about 35k for that model.

Great bikes though!

 

[EBZ911]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the very detailed response @Zack,

@Nick, I wanted to use it as a weekend toy, ride to work on Saturdays, and go do a little off road on Sundays, we have some really awesome off roads in the Garden Route.

@Tr0jan, thanks for ur reply, after looking around on the net,I came across one with 25k kilos at R38k...

 

[Nick]

ok, yea look that thing isnt going to be to lekker for highways and covering distance.

For doing some light to medium off road it should be ok.

If you want the best of both id go f800gs.

 

[EBZ911]

@Nick, ok cool, I do 35kms in one direction and 35km back i.e to work and back...also I haven't really done off road, wanna try it thou...will have a look at the 800...

 

[Nick]

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good review.


I ride a tiger 800, the gs800 engine is a bit boring for me.
I my ride is from the south of jozi to sandton, Tiger eats mileage.

 

[Nick]

 

[EBZ911]

Hi Nick,

Your bike looks awesome dude!

Thanks for the link.

Please check out this link....

I have not yet researched the 800, but it looks good...

https://smg.co.za/vehicle/207304/

ps: I love these colours

 

[Nick]

That looks good, low Km's too!

 

[tr0jan]

Awesome man!

If you were willing to spend R45k. Really rather look at the F800GS, even the first models.

I owned both, F800GS FTW hands down! Its better than the 650 in every single manner. There was also nowhere the 800 could not go compared to the 650.

Ill buy an F800 with 100k km on the clock without any care in the world.

The neck bearings on the 800 sometimes go, but then again, the neck bearings on the 650 was seen a consumable!

 

[EBZ911]

@Nick, this was a brilliant review! Thank you.

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@Trojan, my one concern about the 800, I'm 1.65m tall and weigh 70kg, will this work? I used to own a Honda cbr 600, and that worked out super awesome, I haven't really been on a adventure bike before...

 

[Nick]

So Adventure bikes are quite tall, and quite heavy but your dimensions should be fine.

They take a bit getting used to in terms of maneuvering them around.

On dirt if you dont know what you are doing and dont know how to control the mass on a loose surface it can get sketchy really quickly ( iv done this 3 times haha)

When on dirt, stand up, use the rear brake AND MAKE DUST!

Its such a good feeling getting a big bike down a mountainbike trail :fencelook:

 

[EBZ911]

What are your thoughts on first learning with the 600 than graduate upto the 800?

 

[AudiDriver]

I have a R1200 GSA and it is a great bike but too slow in my opinion. Could have done with another 25 hp. It is a big bike and too unwieldy for daily commute. I use it for touring.

The point I'm making is these bikes aren't very powerful if you are used to riding superbikes. And you get used to the power quickly.

No point in going for a 600 and then upgrading to the 800. I would go with the 800 from the start. The 800 will be perfect for doing the daily run to work and having some fun on weekends. And it can carry a pilion and still be comfortable with overtaking slow cars.


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[Nick]

Expensive...

In my case i went big and learnt to deal with it, i dont have the money to buy another bike in 6 months once i out grow a smaller bike.

My history of riding was only small offroad bikes, i hadnt touched a bike for 6 years before the day i picked up the bike.

Was super scary and i thought id bought to much machine... 6 months later i was power sliding dirt roads like it was easy.

 

[tr0jan]

800 directly. It has linear power. So it only starts boiling in higher revs.

If you cruise, it cruises. Its not a superbike with an on off switch.

Very good bike to learn on!

 

[EBZ911]

Hi Tr0jan

Thanks for you reply, makes sense, Im not actually looking for speed on a bike, I have the 330d for that :smilebounce:

Looking to cover a little bit of distance max 75 to 100 kms and do off road, or learn to do off road...

:thumbs:

 

[tr0jan]

A 800gs for 47k.

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