540/6 What would you pay?

zulu

Member
Hz...stuck at an impasse with the seller. Car is an original '95 e34 540/6 Individual with 280k. Engine, gearbox and diff are fine. the rest of the car is 'wanked' for want of a better term.
The guy is stuck on 30k, I'm at 15....'am I being unreasonable?
 

prado

Active member
15 to 30k for a 540i Individual? Both figures seem way too low!

To make sense of those figures, the car has to be seen. Are there pictures available? Is it possible to show what the car looks like, inside and out.

If the engine, 'box and diff is fine then the rest of the car must be in a bad state for those kind of prices!
 

zulu

Member
Owner appears to neglect his car besides rudimentary servicing. This car has stood for 2 years. His present e39 M5 is on a similar path.

Some of the issues:
Body is pin straight....but needs a respray, has been polised through in places.
Interior requires serious attention, drivers seat particularly bad.
All the shocks are nackered.
Suspension bush's need replacing through out.
Tyres have actually perished.
Wheels need refurbishing.
Licence in arrears.

There is another Individual adverised on the North Coast for 50k, which is light years apart in terms of condition. Plus the seller is negotiable on this price.

I however am not looking for a minter as my intention is to swop everything into my touring so the 50k car is a non-starter.
 

ChefDJ

///Member
zulu said:
Owner appears to neglect his car besides rudimentary servicing. This car has stood for 2 years. His present e39 M5 is on a similar path.


Wtf :RedNo::smashScreen:
 

revred

Member
I had the one in KZN checked out.

Interior is shot.
Tappet cover leak.
needs re-spray

Aftermarket clutch
Non original wheels

Definitely not worth 50k
 

zulu

Member
revred said:
I had the one in KZN checked out.

Interior is shot.
Tappet cover leak.
needs re-spray

Aftermarket clutch
Non original wheels

Definitely not worth 50k

The car in question is considerably worse than the 'purple/violet' car you are refering to. Hence my reluctance.
What did your 'inspector' feel this car was worth?
 

prado

Active member
Legacy said:
These cars were over R300k new, pay the R30k and get the car.

Absolutely! This is a limited edition model that should be brought back to life! Move up and even settle for around R25k if you can but this is a collector's piece and should be rescued.

It's future value is going to jump in leaps and bounds. This is a rare piece and is going to be sought after many years from now!
 

VictorMike

///Member
prado said:
Absolutely! This is a limited edition model that should be brought back to life! Move up and even settle for around R25k if you can but this is a collector's piece and should be rescued.

OP is using it as a donor car, so not a rescue.
 

zulu

Member
zulu said:
I however am not looking for a minter as my intention is to swop everything into my touring so the 50k car is a non-starter.
^^^^^
I think many have missed this part, no plans to restore the car.
I'm inclinded to pay more but the question is how much?

As a rolling chassis e34's have little value. The transfer will not slot my touring into the same league as a well preserved 540/6. It'll just be an interesting car valued at what somebody is willing to pay for it's oddity.
 
Which parts all you looking for?
Drive train? suspension parts? How much would these cost you, and how much can you recoup from the sale of the body parts of the donor car, etc you wont be using, including your original drive train?

Maybe start calculating these, and see what how much of an offer would make sense to you.
 

zulu

Member
Sabretooth tiger said:
Which parts all you looking for?
Drive train? suspension parts? How much would these cost you, and how much can you recoup from the sale of the body parts of the donor car, etc you wont be using, including your original drive train?

Maybe start calculating these, and see what how much of an offer would make sense to you.

It's very much a swings and round-abouts senario. A reasonable amount would be recouped from the sale of the wagon's drive train etc...but I anticipate a serious job ahead with this transfer which in turn will have other financial considerations.

Conversions are never profitable in my mind ...they are bottomless pits in which you are 'privledged' to throw your money into. There is a point where the money starts to sour the experience....and that is what I want to avoid. That moment where you just sell the 'project' as it has become unpalatable.
 

revred

Member
zulu said:
revred said:
I had the one in KZN checked out.

Interior is shot.
Tappet cover leak.
needs re-spray

Aftermarket clutch
Non original wheels

Definitely not worth 50k

The car in question is considerably worse than the 'purple/violet' car you are refering to. Hence my reluctance.
What did your 'inspector' feel this car was worth?

He thinks its not a bad buy for the rarity of the model but there is about 50K to be spent to get it in decent condition.

My biggest concern is the maintenance. The aftermarket clutch points to a cheap fix and not the right fix. Who knows what else was repaired in this fashion.


What colour combination is the one you are looking at?

To be honest for what you are looking to do, I would rather buy a engine, gearbox and diff from a low mileage car as you will know it is good shape. There is a guy on the gum selling 2 E34 M5's in CT. one running and one not. Check it out, you might be able to build a E34 M5 Touring.
 
zulu said:
Sabretooth tiger said:
Which parts all you looking for?
Drive train? suspension parts? How much would these cost you, and how much can you recoup from the sale of the body parts of the donor car, etc you wont be using, including your original drive train?

Maybe start calculating these, and see what how much of an offer would make sense to you.

It's very much a swings and round-abouts senario. A reasonable amount would be recouped from the sale of the wagon's drive train etc...but I anticipate a serious job ahead with this transfer which in turn will have other financial considerations.

Conversions are never profitable in my mind ...they are bottomless pits in which you are 'privledged' to throw your money into. There is a point where the money starts to sour the experience....and that is what I want to avoid. That moment where you just sell the 'project' as it has become unpalatable.

I see, if it was me though, I would have rather worked with what I got, way cheaper (I don't have funds for big builds) and will be easier to sell off again, unless you really want to build a one of a kind, there is a market for such cars out there, although small.
 

zulu

Member
revred said:
zulu said:
revred said:
I had the one in KZN checked out.

Interior is shot.
Tappet cover leak.
needs re-spray

Aftermarket clutch
Non original wheels

Definitely not worth 50k

The car in question is considerably worse than the 'purple/violet' car you are refering to. Hence my reluctance.
What did your 'inspector' feel this car was worth?

He thinks its not a bad buy for the rarity of the model but there is about 50K to be spent to get it in decent condition.

My biggest concern is the maintenance. The aftermarket clutch points to a cheap fix and not the right fix. Who knows what else was repaired in this fashion.


What colour combination is the one you are looking at?

To be honest for what you are looking to do, I would rather buy a engine, gearbox and diff from a low mileage car as you will know it is good shape. There is a guy on the gum selling 2 E34 M5's in CT. one running and one not. Check it out, you might be able to build a E34 M5 Touring.

This particular car is grey leather on white.

From the little I can find on the net, the transfer is quite extensive and requires the entire loom to be transfer.

The 'M5 touring' would be the ultimate but those engines are costly to rebuild due to their 'M' status, the M6x are cheap as chips by comparison.
 

Sankekur

///Member
revred said:
The aftermarket clutch points to a cheap fix and not the right fix.

Replaced a lot of 540i6 clutches have you?

zulu said:
......the M6x are cheap as chips by comparison.

I think you are ill-informed as to "cheapness" of rebuilding a BMW V8.
 

zulu

Member
Sankekur said:
zulu said:
......the M6x are cheap as chips by comparison.

I think you are ill-informed as to "cheapness" of rebuilding a BMW V8.

Apologies I wasn't clear in my point...they are relatively cheap to purchase as a cut-out/import motor. There are no 'matching numbers' to preserve wrt the swop into the touring.
 

revred

Member
Sankekur said:
revred said:
The aftermarket clutch points to a cheap fix and not the right fix.

Replaced a lot of 540i6 clutches have you?

zulu said:
......the M6x are cheap as chips by comparison.

I think you are ill-informed as to "cheapness" of rebuilding a BMW V8.
Hi Sank,

Fair enough. I was just saying that the clutch was replaced with non oem parts and it creates a perception that other parts may have been replaced in a similar fasion. Only the owner knows. I personally like my cars original or with slight modifications that keep the originality. Just my preference.

When the overall condition of a car is bad one can assume that it wasn't cared for. This comment is not because of the clutch it is because of the condition of the interior and other items that show clear signs of neglect.
 
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