320d Tuning Results by FR&R

Cornel

///Member
Hi guys

FR&R did my SW on Friday and thought it will be nice to see some of the results that others are getting.

My car is not tuned to make massive power but rather for reliability as I don't have DP yet. So boost is set to 1.7bar.

This was the results 17.3wkw and 61nm torque. Car was bench flashed, that's why the graph is not that smooth yet as we did not test drive before we did the after dyno so no time to adapt.



Please share your input and some of your results.

May I add that the car pulls very good now. Launches good as well. Overtaking other cars is a joy now

Thanks
 

tman

Well-known member
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?
 

H|TM@N

Member
tman said:
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?

Yes, at the flywheel, then add drivetrain losses, and it's about right.

Nice improvement for SW only. :thumbsup:
 

FerdiBotha

Well-known member
H|] [quote='tman said:
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?

Yes, at the flywheel, then add drivetrain losses, and it's about right.

Nice improvement for SW only. :thumbsup:
[/quote]

Drivetrain loss should be around 15% which amounts to 20kw.
 

AshG108

///Member
I had my 320d LCi benchflashed with software only and no other mods, no DP nothing.

my dyno came out pretty with 142wkw/460wnm at KAR. Cannot find the photo on m phone now for some reason...
 

H|TM@N

Member
FerdiBotha said:
H|] [quote='tman said:
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?

Yes, at the flywheel, then add drivetrain losses, and it's about right.

Nice improvement for SW only. :thumbsup:

Drivetrain loss should be around 15% which amounts to 20kw.
[/quote]

And no dyno is 100% accurate. Might be that the dyno is a little stinchy. The graphs should only aid in gauging gains.
 

Cornel

///Member
tman said:
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?

Yes don't think it's to high.
I wanted a bit more than stock but in a safe manner that I don't mess anything up.
I'll add dp and cooler end of the year. Kuruman limits me a lot.


AshG108 said:
I had my 320d LCi benchflashed with software only and no other mods, no DP nothing.

my dyno came out pretty with 142wkw/460wnm at KAR. Cannot find the photo on m phone now for some reason...

Damn that's quite high. Who did your mapping?
Do you know how much the boost was and so forth?
How reliable was the car?
 

AshG108

///Member
Cornel said:
tman said:
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?

Yes don't think it's to high.
I wanted a bit more than stock but in a safe manner that I don't mess anything up.
I'll add dp and cooler end of the year. Kuruman limits me a lot.


AshG108 said:
I had my 320d LCi benchflashed with software only and no other mods, no DP nothing.

my dyno came out pretty with 142wkw/460wnm at KAR. Cannot find the photo on m phone now for some reason...

Damn that's quite high. Who did your mapping?
Do you know how much the boost was and so forth?
How reliable was the car?



Hey bud,

the late OB did mine from ChipLogic.
not too sure on how much boost but i remember him saying ti was somewhere around 1.7 - 1.9 peak.
Car was reliable and ran pretty strong, had no issues at all. Only thing was the gearbox gave in on gear 3 & 4 due to it having a ping way before the map. it was very slight and hardly noticeable and i could not replicate it at the dealer however when the map was put on it accelerated it and it started pinging even more and felt like a thud going into those 2 gears.Car was under m/plan so it was changed otherwise the only other thing was tyres...had them changed twice at the rear...chowed like mad! lol
 

Cornel

///Member
AshG108 said:
Cornel said:
tman said:
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?

Yes don't think it's to high.
I wanted a bit more than stock but in a safe manner that I don't mess anything up.
I'll add dp and cooler end of the year. Kuruman limits me a lot.


AshG108 said:
I had my 320d LCi benchflashed with software only and no other mods, no DP nothing.

my dyno came out pretty with 142wkw/460wnm at KAR. Cannot find the photo on m phone now for some reason...

Damn that's quite high. Who did your mapping?
Do you know how much the boost was and so forth?
How reliable was the car?



Hey bud,

the late OB did mine from ChipLogic.
not too sure on how much boost but i remember him saying ti was somewhere around 1.7 - 1.9 peak.
Car was reliable and ran pretty strong, had no issues at all. Only thing was the gearbox gave in on gear 3 & 4 due to it having a ping way before the map. it was very slight and hardly noticeable and i could not replicate it at the dealer however when the map was put on it accelerated it and it started pinging even more and felt like a thud going into those 2 gears.Car was under m/plan so it was changed otherwise the only other thing was tyres...had them changed twice at the rear...chowed like mad! lol



Okay i see. Mine peaks at 1.7bar. Don't you maybe have an old dyno sheet on yours? Would like to see how it holds power. As i think mine holds power very good. Also my acceleration time improved with 0.9seconds in 4th gear.
Yeah the torque is nice. Luckily for me, my wife drives it more than me so my tyres will last lol
 

AshG108

///Member
Cornel said:
AshG108 said:
Cornel said:
tman said:
AFAIK the 320d LCI has 135kw stock so from my observation the Dyno might be a little on the conservative side.

With that said you gained +- 16.6% in KW and NM which I suppose is also quite a "safe" number?

What are you going for in the tune?

Yes don't think it's to high.
I wanted a bit more than stock but in a safe manner that I don't mess anything up.
I'll add dp and cooler end of the year. Kuruman limits me a lot.


AshG108 said:
I had my 320d LCi benchflashed with software only and no other mods, no DP nothing.

my dyno came out pretty with 142wkw/460wnm at KAR. Cannot find the photo on m phone now for some reason...

Damn that's quite high. Who did your mapping?
Do you know how much the boost was and so forth?
How reliable was the car?



Hey bud,

the late OB did mine from ChipLogic.
not too sure on how much boost but i remember him saying ti was somewhere around 1.7 - 1.9 peak.
Car was reliable and ran pretty strong, had no issues at all. Only thing was the gearbox gave in on gear 3 & 4 due to it having a ping way before the map. it was very slight and hardly noticeable and i could not replicate it at the dealer however when the map was put on it accelerated it and it started pinging even more and felt like a thud going into those 2 gears.Car was under m/plan so it was changed otherwise the only other thing was tyres...had them changed twice at the rear...chowed like mad! lol



Okay i see. Mine peaks at 1.7bar. Don't you maybe have an old dyno sheet on yours? Would like to see how it holds power. As i think mine holds power very good. Also my acceleration time improved with 0.9seconds in 4th gear.
Yeah the torque is nice. Luckily for me, my wife drives it more than me so my tyres will last lol



Sure I do bud, but i don't have the pic on my phone. let me me find it and send it to you. the graph looked okay from what i can remember...you lucky with the wife driving it...i was swinging that cars ass everywhere every chance i had. i drove it pretty hard and enjoyed every moment of it! it was awesome!
 

Cornel

///Member
AshG108 said:
Sure I do bud, but i don't have the pic on my phone. let me me find it and send it to you. the graph looked okay from what i can remember...you lucky with the wife driving it...i was swinging that cars ass everywhere every chance i had. i drove it pretty hard and enjoyed every moment of it! it was awesome!

Thanks man appreciate it. Just want to look at the acceleration time, how the boost holds and so on.
Well i miss it. We're driving with a 2.2 auto Ranger every day and that thing is lazy as f@ck! I'll rather replace tyres twice a year(did that in my previous focus st)
 

AshG108

///Member
Cornel said:
AshG108 said:
Sure I do bud, but i don't have the pic on my phone. let me me find it and send it to you. the graph looked okay from what i can remember...you lucky with the wife driving it...i was swinging that cars ass everywhere every chance i had. i drove it pretty hard and enjoyed every moment of it! it was awesome!

Thanks man appreciate it. Just want to look at the acceleration time, how the boost holds and so on.
Well i miss it. We're driving with a 2.2 auto Ranger every day and that thing is lazy as f@ck! I'll rather replace tyres twice a year(did that in my previous focus st)

No probs boet! will find it...lol, Focus ST...now that is something I need to experience in this lifetime!
 

Phoenix

New member
FR&R Dyno is very stingy compared to KAR, however FR&R's dyno is the most accurate I've been on graph wise vs what I'm feeling and what my times showed. I made consistently 15-20wkw less with my Volvo on FR&R vs KAR.

Personally I'm not one for numbers. A lower power car with flatter graph will out drive a car with slightly more power, but that has it for less rpm.

Use graphs for comparison on gains and movement on power below and above the curve before and after mods, a power curve tells a big story about a tune and how well a car is set up.

Yours looks very close to stock just with more power, to me, that's a good tune! No need to push the car if you dont have supporting mods to aid in flow and cooling.

:thumbs:
 

Cornel

///Member
Phoenix said:
FR&R Dyno is very stingy compared to KAR, however FR&R's dyno is the most accurate I've been on graph wise vs what I'm feeling and what my times showed. I made consistently 15-20wkw less with my Volvo on FR&R vs KAR.

Personally I'm not one for numbers. A lower power car with flatter graph will out drive a car with slightly more power, but that has it for less rpm.

Use graphs for comparison on gains and movement on power below and above the curve before and after mods, a power curve tells a big story about a tune and how well a car is set up.

Yours looks very close to stock just with more power, to me, that's a good tune! No need to push the car if you dont have supporting mods to aid in flow and cooling.

:thumbs:
Yes I agree with you. Like Leon said he can tune the car to 140wkw to be a dyno queen but that won't help me anything on the road.
Also agree that it's a real good tune and it's more or less the same as stock which means that the map is set up correctly. We wanted to do a after dyno on monday (drove the car for about 500-600km after the map) but I just didn't had any time. Wanted to see how smooth it is now.

I just want to see how other 320d's dyno sheets compare with mine. Want to see when the boost comes in and how long it holds that power. How long the dyno run lasted meaning how the time improved and so on


low_flyer said:
nice gains, not bad for a 20d

downpipe will make a nice gain on the torque.

Thanks man appreciate it.
Yes will see how it does when I get it done.
 

///Avi

///Member
Great gains bud. Car probably feels quite strong now. :clapper:

How does the ambient correction work?
 
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