2016 Volvo V60 Cross Country D4 AWD Inscription Polestar

UpNcOmiNg!

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Volvo lost their ways a short while back with styling and and and but I must say they are definitely back on the right track!
They have some of the best looking cars out at the moment and build quality is still damn good from the looks of things!

Congrats on the purchase, I look forward to more pics and reviews!
Many happy miles! :praise:
 

SubLoaded

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Congrats Mr_Y.

We always knew that you were a pole star :tease:

Nice write-up. Keen to hear what you have to say about it in a few months time after putting some KMs on it.

You should've remapped your 320d before changing up though! :blueCry:
 

MR_Y

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After a trip down the N3 yesterday, I can report:

- great mid-range power and overtaking ability. "Effortless" is the key work. Better than my 320d, but not quite at 30d levels. The gearbox only has 6 gears, so while it may not be the most modern box around, it does not not hunt and kicks down well when you need to point and shoot.

- fuel consumption is not this motor's strong point. Trip average was 8.5litres per 100km (down from JHB to KZN). I wasn't pushing it that often either.

- the steering feels hefty and the car grips well. At the limit, it does understeer slightly - as all Volvos do. But it is easy to carve through bends at a rapid pace. You do feel the weight and height of car, but not as bad as an SUV. "Planted", "Secure", "Controlled", "Precise" are words that spring to mind.

- drove down to KZN south coast on gravel roads and down many steep hills. The car has Hill Descent Control, when selecting 1st gear on the autobox. Works brilliantly. When going up hill, the low down torque, AWD and raised height makes progress effortless up gravel hills. Granted, these are not axle twister roads.

- driving fast (not crazy fast though) on gravel is a pleasure. The Pirelli Scorpions seems to do a good job of balancing on road and off road ability. The 5 cylinder motor just sounds so good when you play with the gearbox - no paddles, just a very mechanical and solid sounding/feeling gear shifter.

- the infotainment system is very button heavy (this was one of the last models before Volvo fitted the tablet screens). Very difficult to use when driving at speed and, being unfamiliar with the layout, I was reaching subconsciously for an idrive controller. However, besides the interface, the system itself is pretty impressive. Sat Nav and traffic alerts/re-routing works well. The system even rips CDs and saves USBs to its internal HDD. Also, it allows playing of DVDs under 10kmh (not sure why this feature is even offered). Voice control commands are pretty intuitive and operates better than pressing the buttons. Harman Kardon audio system is top class.

- the build quality is impeccable. Not one rattle or squeak after driving up and down gravel roads - some of which were quite rutted. More impressive is the fact that this car is 3 years old and still feels brand new to drive.

- the active bending main beams worked brilliant when driving late at night past Umgababa (notorious section of N2 with poor night visibility). The sensors kept the lights high enough to illuminate the dark road, without blinding oncoming traffic.

Pics to follow.
 
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MR_Y

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MR_Y

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So, this car will likely get the chop in the next 2 years to make room for a Bavarian SUV (hoping to find a nice X3 G01 20d with under 30,000km at the right price, or a X3 30d with some luck). Will be posting periodic updates here on the V60 CC, just in case anyone on this forum would be keen on buying this car in future.

The car is now over 59,000km.

Tyres

At 50,000km, I replaced all 4 Pirelli Scorpion Zero Assimetricos tyres with Goodyear Eagle F1 SUV Assymetrics.
The Pirellis were on the car from new (2016) and still had some life left, but started to peel slightly on the edges - they seemed brittle after 4 years and 50,000kms of use.
The Eagle F1s are very good all-round tyres that handle tar and rough gravel well, and also perform decently in the wet.

Build Quality and Durability

Besides minor scuffs and shopping park dings on the bodywork, the car looks and feels new. The leather (seems to be Nappa) is only treated annually, but still feels supple and looks great. No issues with electronics (this car is fully loaded with tech - refer first post) and every feature still works perfectly. No rattles, squeaks or other strange noises - even after regular spirited driving on rough gravel roads (handy 201mm ground clearance). Dare I say it, but this is the best, or rather the most durably, built car I have owned thus far.

Drive

Being built on old-school tech (no Volvo Drive-E, fuel saving nonsense here), the car has a hydraulic steering setup (though, I think it has some electronic assistance working in tandem with the hydraulic system). It feels meaty and helps when you really want to thrash the car through some corners. Yes, there is some body roll, but having a hefty steering does help when pushing on hard. Interestingly, you can can increase or decrease the level of heftiness in the steering and these settings can be customised as a driver profile setting - so, electric seat position, mirrors and steering can all be set up per driver and stored in the car's memory.

The performance on gravel is very good. The car feels stable and gives you confidence to push through at higher speeds. The AWD system is Haldex, so it runs mainly FWD and switches to AWD when slip is detected. I had no issues traversing steep and muddy terrain. Granted, I did not attempt any axle twisters, since the car is not designed for that. Driving on gravel and mud (not too deep) roads is where this car's ability shines, bearing in mind the limitation of 201mm of ground clearance.

On tar, the car feels very stable, even over rough tar. It is a heavy car (1.8 ton), with a lot of sound deadening material and insulation in and around the cabin, so it feels like a bigger car (say, an SUV) than what it actually is (a raised wagon). That feeling, together with the 162kw/440Nm diesel 5-cylinder motor, makes this vehicle an excellent long distance cruiser - it lives up to its Cross Country name.

0-100kph is done in just under 9 seconds, which is nothing fantastic, but in-gear acceleration feels very strong - pulling from 120 to 160 is stronger than my F30 320d - and helps on uphill stretches when you need to overtake in a hurry.

Fuel consumption is bad. Averaging 9.5+ litres/100km currently with mixed driving - more highway than town. That is the price you pay for 5 cylinders, I guess.

On a final point, I have to mention the seats. The seats feel like an expensive couch. Sitting in the driver's seat actually makes you feel relaxed. The seat heaters also work pretty well and add to that feeling of comfort and relaxation, especially on a cold day.
 

VinceM

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I see you would be looking at the G01 SUV,

What’s your view on the latest Volvo XC60?
I found it to be visually appealing....


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So, this car will likely get the chop in the next 2 years to make room for a Bavarian SUV (hoping to find a nice X3 G01 20d with under 30,000km at the right price, or a X3 30d with some luck). Will be posting periodic updates here on the V60 CC, just in case anyone on this forum would be keen on buying this car in future.

The car is now over 59,000km.

Tyres

At 50,000km, I replaced all 4 Pirelli Scorpion Zero Assimetricos tyres with Goodyear Eagle F1 SUV Assymetrics.
The Pirellis were on the car from new (2016) and still had some life left, but started to peel slightly on the edges - they seemed brittle after 4 years and 50,000kms of use.
The Eagle F1s are very good all-round tyres that handle tar and rough gravel well, and also perform decently in the wet.

Build Quality and Durability

Besides minor scuffs and shopping park dings on the bodywork, the car looks and feels new. The leather (seems to be Nappa) is only treated annually, but still feels supple and looks great. No issues with electronics (this car is fully loaded with tech - refer first post) and every feature still works perfectly. No rattles, squeaks or other strange noises - even after regular spirited driving on rough gravel roads (handy 201mm ground clearance). Dare I say it, but this is the best, or rather the most durably, built car I have owned thus far.

Drive

Being built on old-school tech (no Volvo Drive-E, fuel saving nonsense here), the car has a hydraulic steering setup (though, I think it has some electronic assistance working in tandem with the hydraulic system). It feels meaty and helps when you really want to thrash the car through some corners. Yes, there is some body roll, but having a hefty steering does help when pushing on hard. Interestingly, you can can increase or decrease the level of heftiness in the steering and these settings can be customised as a driver profile setting - so, electric seat position, mirrors and steering can all be set up per driver and stored in the car's memory.

The performance on gravel is very good. The car feels stable and gives you confidence to push through at higher speeds. The AWD system is Haldex, so it runs mainly FWD and switches to AWD when slip is detected. I had no issues traversing steep and muddy terrain. Granted, I did not attempt any axle twisters, since the car is not designed for that. Driving on gravel and mud (not too deep) roads is where this car's ability shines, bearing in mind the limitation of 201mm of ground clearance.

On tar, the car feels very stable, even over rough tar. It is a heavy car (1.8 ton), with a lot of sound deadening material and insulation in and around the cabin, so it feels like a bigger car (say, an SUV) than what it actually is (a raised wagon). That feeling, together with the 162kw/440Nm diesel 5-cylinder motor, makes this vehicle an excellent long distance cruiser - it lives up to its Cross Country name.

0-100kph is done in just under 9 seconds, which is nothing fantastic, but in-gear acceleration feels very strong - pulling from 120 to 160 is stronger than my F30 320d - and helps on uphill stretches when you need to overtake in a hurry.

Fuel consumption is bad. Averaging 9.5+ litres/100km currently with mixed driving - more highway than town. That is the price you pay for 5 cylinders, I guess.

On a final point, I have to mention the seats. The seats feel like an expensive couch. Sitting in the driver's seat actually makes you feel relaxed. The seat heaters also work pretty well and add to that feeling of comfort and relaxation, especially on a cold day.
I have just seen the thread, it's a lovely car. Looking forward to the updates.

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MR_Y

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I see you would be looking at the G01 SUV,

What’s your view on the latest Volvo XC60?
I found it to be visually appealing....


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I drove the current XC60 D5 in 2019. I was very disappointed.

The steering feels too light. Even though you can increase the weight on the settings, it still feels very artificial. When taking bends at speed, I felt disconnected from what the car was doing. My V60, even though not a sports car, still communicates nicely from the road to the driver - maybe due its electro-hydraulic setup instead of fully electric steering.

Also, while the latest D5 (that is a 4 cylinder) seems to have superior outputs (173kw/480Nm), it does not really feel that powerful. The gearbox is also quite slow and blunts acceleration.

Lastly, these cars, even on the used market, are too highly priced. D4 models, which I assume much feel a lot slower than the D5 I tested, are still priced above similar aged X3 G01s. The X3 20d is not a rocket ship, and will certainly not have the oomph of my V60, but it will definitely drive better than the current gen XC60.

The XC60 is just too numb feeling for me, especially at its high price point.
 

MR_Y

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Had a chance to take a few pictures.

Not the biggest boot, but divider bar is pretty useful to prevent stuff rolling about. Space-saver spare wheel resides under boot floor board.
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The radar is mounted in the front grille. Not the most elegant solution (the honeycomb seems to be fused where the radar is).
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235/45 R19 Goodyear Eagle F1 SUV tyres. A bit more road biased than outright offroad, but handles gravel very well and offers great comfort too. That Y speed rating (300 km/h) is a bit optimistic for a car that tops out at 210 km/h :)
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Yes, the centre console is old-school button-heavy, but you get used to it after a while and it works well without you having to look down often (better than the modern Volvo tablet screens). You know this car is fully optioned, when you see that there are no blank buttons - every button is labelled and works. Hill descent control and Lane Departure Warning are nice features to have in this type of vehicle. Navigation has free-for-life map and POI updates, downloadable from the Volvo website. Also, standard fit TMC (Traffic Message Channel) functionality, supported by Netstar, is free too and works with the Nav to offer you alternative routes, when traffic conditions change. Granted, Waze and Google Maps are superior, but the Volvo system is pretty decent and the free-for-life updates beats the similar offering from BMW.
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The most comfortable seats in the business. Heated and electric.
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Prancing Moose badge is the only non-OEM addition to this car...
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Full house safety suite in these windscreen mounted sensors:
- Lane Departure warning scans the road ahead for lane markings.
- Light sensor picks up lights from oncoming traffic at night, and then partially blocks the main (bright) beams to avoid blinding the other driver, while still illuminating the rest of the road
- Camera reads traffic signs and displays that info in the instrument binnacle. If you exceed the speed on a traffic sign, you get a customisable warning.
- Sensors work with the grille-mounted radar to automatically brake the car if a collision is imminent. You can set a distance threshold to get an audible and/or visual warning on the dash.
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MR_Y

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Update at 61,000km.

Given that my 981 Cayman is off duty, I am using the V60 more often.
Fuel consumption is sitting at 9.5 litres per 100km.
I feel that Sasol 10ppm gives me better performance than Caltex 50ppm - but no difference in consumption.
Maybe it is due to the higher Cetane rating of Sasol fuel? Or, it is just my mind playing tricks...

I have one service coming up in June, then the maintenance plan expires.
I am not willing to fork out for an extension - here is the quote:
- For a further 2 years and 40 000 km - R46 000 (vat included)
- For a further 3 years and 60 000 km - R67 000 (vat included)

The free 5 year Tracker SkyTrax service also expires with the maintenance plan, so I just need to renew that. More so for peace of mind (includes app based tracking and road side assist and vehicle recovery, etc). Speaking of the Tracker, the seatbelt panic button has come off, so that needs to be fixed.

Given that there have been no issues with the car and that the car is fully paid up (it was a relatively great value used car buy), I am going to bite the bullet and pay for services and maintenance when they come up. My Googling revealed that these old school 5 cylinder diesels are pretty robust, so too the AWD system (just need the Haldex system to be serviced at set intervals).

I am in two minds about servicing the car with a dealer or going the RMI independent workshop route. If maintenance starts costing me too much, then I may pull a hybrid move - i.e. perform just oil services at Volvo (to get the book stamped) and do heavy maintenance work elsewhere. Though, I may end up selling the car anyway if the costs start piling up.

With my 981 proving to not be that reliable (hopefully, that recent issue will be rectified soon), there is greater pressure on the Volvo to perform my daily (spirited) driver role, as well as the family car role.

While typing this up, I reminisced about my 2007 C30 2.0i (I bought used in 2008). Here are some pictures. Yes, those are TSW Rims...
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MR_Y

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Some pictures with a 2013 Cayenne 3.0 Diesel.
Surprisingly, performance gap is not that huge.Capturex3.JPGCapturex2.JPGCapturex1.JPG
 
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Those 5 cylinder engines are tough.
Suspension related parts are on the expensive side though.

Love the Swedish moose "Ferrari" stickers

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MR_Y

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Those 5 cylinder engines are tough.
Suspension related parts are on the expensive side though.

Love the Swedish moose "Ferrari" stickers

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I travel a few kilometres on rough gravel a few times a week. Alignment is still perfect after one year, when I last checked recently. The car is built old school strong.

My maintenance plan expires this year, so will have first hand experience soon on maintenance costs.
 

Budleigh

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Nice write-up. Our C30 T5 is well-loved. The occasional expense, but nothing too terrible. Volvos are strong, generally, and the 5 cylinder ones are the best ones.

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MR_Y

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Went on an epic road trip recently.
From JHB to Bela Bela, Limpopo. Then to KZN south coast.

In Limpopo, took a calculated risk and decided to use the car as a self drive vehicle in the "Adventures with Elephants" park. Not axle twisting terrain, but the gravel roads were a bit rough. However, ground clearance on the Volvo was adequate. AWD kicked in on some steep uphills and Hill Descent Control helped with some tricky downhill situations. Spent two nights at Mabula then back to JHB and then onwards to KZN.

In KZN, travelled over mild gravel roads, with some occasional steep uphills/downhills. Raced a bakkie up one hill, but slowed down when my ground clearance necessitated a drop in my speed. Was still fun though.

On the way back from KZN to JHB, had an encounter with a new E220d. Had the edge over him on a few uphill sections on the N3, at sensible speeds.

Some pics below.

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The above was taken some time back, but travelled this same section recently.

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Trusty 5 cylinder twin-turbo diesel motor (hiding under that black cover). In fact, the V60CC was the last Volvo model sold in SA with the 5 cylinder motor. Volvos are now all 4 or 3 cylinders.

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A proper, high speed dust buster.

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Chilling out on a Golf course/nature reserve, just passed Scottburgh/Pennington.
 
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MR_Y

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Out of maintenance plan service estimates:

So, with my car going out of plan soon, I asked my Volvo dealer to quote for the next few services. It is worth noting that my car will only hit its 100,000km/5 year service at only 68,000km in the next few months.

Rundown below (all estimates based on today's cost, not considering future inflation). Prices include VAT and labour.

120,000km/6 year service: R14,000
140,000km/7 year service: R8,500
160,000km/8 year service (including cambelt): R18,000
Brake discs and pads: R14,000 (add on to usual service)

Volvo Maintenance Plan (from Innovation Group) extension quotes are as follows (these are the only options available):
40,000km/2 year extension: R46,000
60,000km/3 year extension: R67,000

Volvo Warranty only extension (from Innovation Group):
180,000km (total mileage on Odo) /2 years: R23,000

Given the relatively low mileage (for age) on the car, and the fact that it has behaved itself quite well, I decided to bite the bullet and pay for services and maintenance as and when they become due. The official Volvo plan extensions, even the official warranty, are too pricey. If this was a Porsche (which my other car is), then I would not think twice about paying for an official extension.

If maintenance starts costing too much (over and above the usual services), then I may end up selling the car, if the maths on the resale + potential maintenance costs vs new car purchase works out in that way. However, given that this car is currently worth R270,000, the unexpected maintenance costs have to be significantly expensive to warrant a new car purchase.

Besides maintenance costs, I am keen to see how the reliability of the vehicle plays out over the next few years. If the car starts breaking down or gremlins start popping up (and are not fixed first time by the dealer), then that would be my signal to get rid of the car.

Based on my research, the above seems unlikely on this particular model, given the tried-and-tested technology used.
 
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