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[Sankekur]

I don't understand why BMW suddenly need to turbo all the new ///M cars.....

 

[akash]

I agree........ but i think the ///M engines have reached the max potential at aspirated levels. The only way to go now is the turbo route in order to keep up with the other manufacturers. Why do you think the 335i was made. BMW needed to see in some way if the BMW fans would take to the BMW turbo engines and it worked.

I think the the supercharged route would be better though. But i'm no BMW engineer

 

[Julz]

i guess its just more efficient and easier to extract power wth forced induction

 

[Redline]

I don't understand why BMW suddenly need to turbo all the new ///M cars.....

Emissions - Got to keep the tree huggers happy.

Must be said forced induction as came a long way since my 1st experance with a Uno Turbo, but I still prefer the instant throttle response of N/A.

(Never drove a supercharged car though Matt any comments?)

 

[freerider]

too bad BMWSA is going to charge an arm and a leg for this baby.

 

[Sankekur]

I will probably get flamed for this but here goes (If it even makes any sense):
Any kind of FI just feels like cheating to me, kind of like you don't have to work to get more power out of the engine. With a NA engine you need to know your stuff to get more power out of the engine. I have seen a 1.8l MX5 that has been turbo'ed that pushes more than 800Hp. So now the new M3 comes out in 2013 (or whenever) with a 3.2l twin turbo 500Hp engine, that would be pretty good, but doesn't it have more power like 700Hp. Further with turbos you will no longer have the satisfaction (maybe unjustified) of saying: Yeah but my car is NA.

I like BMW without turbos, I am a big fan of NA (one of the reasons I love BMW), but this is of course just my opinion and personal preferences

 

[akash]

I will probably get flamed for this but here goes (If it even makes any sense):
Any kind of FI just feels like cheating to me, kind of like you don't have to work to get more power out of the engine. With a NA engine you need to know your stuff to get more power out of the engine. I have seen a 1.8l MX5 that has been turbo'ed that pushes more than 800Hp. So now the new M3 comes out in 2013 (or whenever) with a 3.2l twin turbo 500Hp engine, that would be pretty good, but doesn't it have more power like 700Hp. Further with turbos you will no longer have the satisfaction (maybe unjustified) of saying: Yeah but my car is NA.

I like BMW without turbos, I am a big fan of NA (one of the reasons I love BMW), but this is of course just my opinion and personal preferences

I agree with you, there just something about the inline 6 of a BMW that no other 6 cylinder can hold a calender to. The Bimmer inline six has become so infamous that you just know the tone of a firing Bimmer inline six anywere, be it a 323i, 325i or 330i.

 

[George Smooth]

I don't understand why BMW suddenly need to turbo all the new ///M cars.....

Bru when you drive a M5 as a daily and your average consumption is 18L/100km no matter how much dosh you have it starts pissing you off. The new M5 will have a consumption of around 10L with 21st century performance. You will also not have to wait till 6000rpm for the car to get moving. I am saying this from a person that has always had a M car in the garage.
On a engineering stand point the V10 was a work of art. It really did have F1 technology and will most probably be the last of the wow motors of the whole combustion era as we know it.
As for the new M3 do not be surprised if BMW releases it with a V6.

 

[Sankekur]

I don't understand why BMW suddenly need to turbo all the new ///M cars.....

Bru when you drive a M5 as a daily and your average consumption is 18L/100km no matter how much dosh you have it starts pissing you off. The new M5 will have a consumption of around 10L with 21st century performance. You will also not have to wait till 6000rpm for the car to get moving. I am saying this from a person that has always had a M car in the garage.
On a engineering stand point the V10 was a work of art. It really did have F1 technology and will most probably be the last of the wow motors of the whole combustion era as we know it.
As for the new M3 do not be surprised if BMW releases it with a V6.

I understand it in terms of consumption I guess, still if you buy a high performance 5l V10 you shouldn't be expecting good fuel consumption. Its the same with my 330i when people ask me about the consumption (11-12l/100km town driving), then asking if I'm not bothered by this high consumption, the answer simply is no, I know that I was buying a car with a 3.0l engine, so the consumption doesn't bother me.

Please don't even talk to me about that little V6 "matter", the thought of a BMW M car powered by a rackety V6 sickens me to be brutally honest.

One good thing is that new BMW are becoming so expensive I will probably never be able to afford one in anyhow, all I actually need is a silver e46 M3 and my perfect 2 car garage will be complete

Edit: Of course I wouldn't say no a e30 M3, but that is kinda like the holy grail, so no sane person would say no to that

 

[George Smooth]

I don't understand why BMW suddenly need to turbo all the new ///M cars.....

Bru when you drive a M5 as a daily and your average consumption is 18L/100km no matter how much dosh you have it starts pissing you off. The new M5 will have a consumption of around 10L with 21st century performance. You will also not have to wait till 6000rpm for the car to get moving. I am saying this from a person that has always had a M car in the garage.
On a engineering stand point the V10 was a work of art. It really did have F1 technology and will most probably be the last of the wow motors of the whole combustion era as we know it.
As for the new M3 do not be surprised if BMW releases it with a V6.

I understand it in terms of consumption I guess, still if you buy a high performance 5l V10 you shouldn't be expecting good fuel consumption. Its the same with my 330i when people ask me about the consumption (11-12l/100km town driving), then asking if I'm not bothered by this high consumption, the answer simply is no, I know that I was buying a car with a 3.0l engine, so the consumption doesn't bother me.

Please don't even talk to me about that little V6 "matter", the thought of a BMW M car powered by a rackety V6 sickens me to be brutally honest.

One good thing is that new BMW are becoming so expensive I will probably never be able to afford one in anyhow, all I actually need is a silver e46 M3 and my perfect 2 car garage will be complete

Edit: Of course I wouldn't say no a e30 M3, but that is kinda like the holy grail, so no sane person would say no to that

I hear where you coming from and I agree to a certain extent as long as the cars do not loose the BMW character turbo is fine with me.

 

[Sankekur]

I hear where you coming from and I agree to a certain extent as long as the cars do not loose the BMW character turbo is fine with me.

Guess then BMW should just become the best with turbo'ed engines, like they are with NA engines

 

[Muney]

I hear where you coming from and I agree to a certain extent as long as the cars do not loose the BMW character turbo is fine with me.

Guess then BMW should just become the best with turbo'ed engines, like they are with NA engines

I like the optimism!

 

[Sankekur]

I hear where you coming from and I agree to a certain extent as long as the cars do not loose the BMW character turbo is fine with me.

Guess then BMW should just become the best with turbo'ed engines, like they are with NA engines

I like the optimism!

Hey, I am a BMWFanatic after all

 

[///Marksman]

I hear where you coming from and I agree to a certain extent as long as the cars do not loose the BMW character turbo is fine with me.

Guess then BMW should just become the best with turbo'ed engines, like they are with NA engines

Oh they will! you better believe that they will. There is a reason why they are at the top. Not saying that they are faultless, but those germans are machines & they know "precisely" [german accent] what they are doing

 

[Rennzport]

2 much hype around this 1 series M
perfect marketing by BMW to justify the crazy price that I'm sure will go along with it :slap:

 

[Kisho135i]

nothing sounds like bmw na engines!!! wistles of turbo's are cool but compared no chance

 

[Willy]

Can't wait for this one. Will be a cracker.