1M Time Attack Car

[ed_z]

Anyways moving on to the thread topic, i actually enjoyed taking my wagon on the strip as i realised how difficult it is to do good times. What i will take with next time like i do on track days is my Laptop:flyfun: On the JB4 interface we can adjust boost on 1st and 2nd gear which would help a hell of a lot as i could not launch the car at all it just lights up the tyres, it was actually starting to become frustrating cos i tried from 5500 down to not revving at all and just pulling off and the minute boost and meth came in boom lights up again till 3rd:argh: Anyways thats how we learn and that is why its so difficult to run good times as its a collection of a lot of things to do a good time.

Enjoyed the morning at ODI was great fun burning petrol and tyres thanks to the organisers!:thumbs:

 

[extreme-eg]

What I meant with my post was that your car has the potential to go quicker with your high exit speed of 188 kph - if you have better traction like on a prepared track like Tarlton, where you can launch it harder and not have a lot of wheelspin.

But then you've said drag's isn't what you built your car for, so bring on the new lap times

:thumbs:

 

[ed_z]

What I meant with my post was that your car has the potential to go quicker with your high exit speed of 188 kph - if you have better traction like on a prepared track like Tarlton, where you can launch it harder and not have a lot of wheelspin.

But then you've said drag's isn't what you built your car for, so bring on the new lap times

:thumbs:

Yeah absolutely agree with you there bud, exits on the 400m and 1Km show that im not getting the launch right as there is enough power for those exits. JB4 allows you to change this in 1st and 2nd gear, i now know why they have this:flyfun:

 

[911 boxer]

Your photo does not reflect accurately as Ed,s car is running well over negative 2 deg camber on the rears(last time I checked)and that is no good for drags,

The 135 I was driving was -1.5 deg on it's RUNFLATS! That's not a major problem as the rear squats under hard launching & that sort of camber is not an issue.

What about the very stiff rear setup of the kw's?This footprint is not ideal for launching and creates problems with the stiff side walls as a combo.Track setup does not suit the drag strip,if you are a track driver you should know that.

he was also running semis which have very hard side walls which are also not really suited for drags and they need a lot of heat before they work(I am running both bridgestone and dunlops

I've run the Dunlop Direzza's & the Bridgestones at drag days on 2 different cars & ran 0.3 seconds faster than street tyres. The sidewalls are immaterial to this discussion, they are semi's, thew compound is softer than street tyres, they grip better than a street tyre off the line. I know this because I have used those exact tyres & ran record times.

They only work when they have heat in them(normally around a lap)and my p zero corsas(295/30/18's)have more grip when cold than any of my semis,with heat its the opposite.Now let's put on a pair of drag radials and see what happens?What record runs?Are those the same runs when you guys claimed that you guys had the fastest aspirated E92 M3 in the country and got the lashing of your lives from me(over and over)with my dead stock M3?Please post the videos(that mysteriously disappeared)so that everyone can see a real launch!

I think with better tyres and a experienced DRAG driver Eds 1M will run low 12's all day long.

Geez, then our little 135 will run 11's then becos it trapped higher on the 1.4 mile & 1km.

All the runs that me and my 10 odd friends saw that morning after they reset the traps showed that Ed's 1M was a lot quicker on the kilo,maybe you miraculously found another 6-8k's to match him after we left BUT while we were there Ed's car was clearly a lot quicker(and he didn't need to call rent o kill to exterminate his car with big water bottle sprayers).Maybe you will even run 10 in matuba,ha,ha. :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

I think the jb's are all you need in terms of hardware for tuning a 54-55 motor,they are simply brilliant and Ed has done a very good job of setting(and learning)his car up with it.Well done Boet! :bravo:

Yeah OK, if you say so.

I can't believe you wrote that even after you guys were caught out having them!
Ok I'll play,show me a better system for similar money and please dont use proceed as I know someone who had one and took it out for a jb4 because his car would not run properly and gave him a lot of crap.

Why can't you give Ed some credit,mr most wanted?

 

[George Smooth]

What I meant with my post was that your car has the potential to go quicker with your high exit speed of 188 kph - if you have better traction like on a prepared track like Tarlton, where you can launch it harder and not have a lot of wheelspin.

But then you've said drag's isn't what you built your car for, so bring on the new lap times

:thumbs:

Yeah absolutely agree with you there bud, exits on the 400m and 1Km show that im not getting the launch right as there is enough power for those exits. JB4 allows you to change this in 1st and 2nd gear, i now know why they have this:flyfun:

Have you got any idea what your 60ft times where?

Exits will drop by 2km/h at Tarlton but with a good drag radial and track prep u will see a 12.2 -12.3.
If you go with 430whp u should crack a 11.

 

[///Shaun]

Why can't you give Ed some credit,mr most wanted?

You are one DOM oke , get your facts straight before using names out loosely. Read the fukking thread of who posted what.

 

[Rooi_Willie]

:facepalm:

Stuffing up another thread.....

 

[DoC1471]

:facepalm:

Stuffing up another thread.....

:facepalm: +1

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Agreed,with the power you are pushing and the fueling you should be pushing alot more esp on the 1km.

Not at all. The km is a heartbreaker, you need exponentially more power to run better speeds. Ed's speed are exactly right for his setup. He has a big boost setup making big mid-range torque & all it's power early with a power peak at 4500rpm. With big mid-range boost comes more timing pull up top & more boost taper up top due to pronounced build up of heat during full load in that gear.

while i hear you,i dont dispute what you are saying,edz is running the jb4,dependin on the map he runs this will affect times obviuosly,my point was pushing that power is enough to get you a more than decent 1km,my understanding is that in the n54 as you said has the boost taper up top,now if he had to run lets say map7 which has fixed boost targets especially at higher rpm where an autotune map would taper off,would that not help achieve both a quicker QM and 1KM?fuelling and octane are the only thing that help you maintain or rather reach boost targets(with a jb4),so if a high enough boost target is set by your software,and you have the right amount of octane with massive power output,that should improve the times.

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opcorn:

 

[911 boxer]

:facepalm:

Stuffing up another thread.....

Sorry boet I am not trying to.My apologies for addressing Sherwin as most wanted as that was meant for his side kick.Lets focus on the thread and stop with the egos,I'll start.

We're your times consistent Ed or did you go slower with the heat soak?Were all your runs with meth or did you use a race fuel only map?Was your car stable after 200?How did the brakes feel from 240+?

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

911 Boxer, my racist nose-digging hypocrite. A softer tyre when warm will offer better traction, especially over a runflat. Ed's tyres were warm. I had an issue with the 135 initially with the meth in 4th & 5th gears & I fixed it. At the end of the day you can cry as much as you want, I ran better traps. Nothing you can say or do can fix it. I trapped 2km/h higher on the 400m & 1km on runflats.

Now, you want to explain to our JB friends how you have been exposed to be a blatant racist & mess up Ed's thread more?

 

[DoC1471]

opcorn:

 

[bybyM3]

popcorn1

 

[911 boxer]

911 Boxer, my racist nose-digging hypocrite. A softer tyre when warm will offer better traction, especially over a runflat. Ed's tyres were warm. I had an issue with the 135 initially with the meth in 4th & 5th gears & I fixed it. At the end of the day you can cry as much as you want, I ran better traps. Nothing you can say or do can fix it. I trapped 2km/h higher on the 400m & 1km on runflats.

Now, you want to explain to our JB friends how you have been exposed to be a blatant racist & mess up Ed's thread more?

I am not crying if you ran it you ran it and I will accept it but while we were there you were off his pace.I still love all you guys incl.Riaz as you are all enthusiasts and imagine how boring things would be without okes having a go at each other?Now I am going to be a gent and congratulate you and Ed and everyone else for putting effort with all these cars that you guys run and tune.Lets stop with the silly racist remarks(I certainly am not)as you are going to sound like our government,some of my friends are related to you bud.This is a hobby for Ed and I think he probably has built the best 1M/135i in the country as he has gone all out in every department.All these times will soon be history as Sav(and a few others)will soon release a big pump kit for between 60 & 70k that will move things on to another level.The hp race is on with these cars so lets see how far they will evolve to.

 

[ed_z]

January my new 1M track car is getting built by ADF and the current 1M is at Sav for a kick up the ass HP upgrade since we are really running stock turbo's, its not top secret as many tuners are already running bigger internals/ RB type setup but this will be something different and special. Also Sav has moved into new premises and looks like ADF as well and there are lots of things happening as per previous posts as well as ALL the tuners pushing the envelope on N54/55 tuning.

When i was in the States(Americas) :roflol: i was at a few strips and there strips are very well prepared and rubbered in as the number of drag cars is like 1 in SA to 1000 in the USA. Fuel is better and parts and tuning is cheap with really good tuners by the 1000's. There dyno figures are also like ours, very up and down but on the same dyno you can get a good average of what we should be able to do here in SA. N54 stock turbo's no NOS FBO, not stripped out wagons on drag tyres are doing 11.3 and 200km/h plus exits on 400 meters. So we are not at all out of the game but plenty more practise and tuning ahead.

Im concentrating on a track car next year, as a daily drive, track day car and drag car are just too much work and too little time to setup. We are on 420WHP and there is maybe 15-20HP more in the stock dryers but toasting them whilst trying to do this too often on the dyno as street setup on pump gas no booster is a lot less WHP, none the less that is still 10-20WHP less than the guys over the sea's looking at drag times vs HP.

 

[ed_z]

RB's Installed.:=):

 

[UpNcOmiNg!]

Talk to us! Hope you well man!

 

[boost3d]

RB's Installed.:=):

Welcome back ed_z , you have been off the grid for a while ....

Any feedback for us on the RB's or any other new developments that you care to mention?

 

[ed_z]

RB's Installed with some new Top secret software and some AR downpipes on top of what i stripped of my race car which we doing a single turbo setup. Race car will take longer than anticipated due to the car being right hand drive. Me im well and smell petrol.....

 

[bybyM3]

wellcome back man

 

[UpNcOmiNg!]

Good to hear dude! The single turbo setup sounds interesting man.
Hope to meet up soon bud, been way too long