Llew's 957 Cayenne

tamgoem

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Thanks I did an interesting exercise pricing the OEM brake job. The price difference is eye watering. I decided to go with a sort of mid-range option (Hella/Pagid) and do front + rear just so I know I won't need to worry about brakes again for a while.

The worst comment I've seen about them talks about them wearing a little bit faster than OEM. For the price delta (basically all parts supplied and fitted for the same price as one front OEM rotor and wear sensor), I can live with it. I wouldn't hesitate to spend money on the 4C or M5 but for the Cayenne it makes no sense to be spending a significant % of the value of the vehicle on this.

On another note, I have too many bills at present :ROFLMAO:

Disks and pads for it from Goldwagen is front and back with pads i think just shy of 10K.

My little big fuel leak is a 15k fix to replace the commonrails that cracked and the high pressure lines.
 

TurboLlew

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Disks and pads for it from Goldwagen is front and back with pads i think just shy of 10K.

My little big fuel leak is a 15k fix to replace the commonrails that cracked and the high pressure lines.

Not a terrible cost all things considered - there is probably some peace of mind that comes with it. Cafe 9 replaced all my vacuum lines when mine was there (when I had initially bought it) and there were many that were ready to visibly crack/give way and some were even already taped together.

I will report back on the brake situation - the parts should be here today.
 

tamgoem

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Not a terrible cost all things considered - there is probably some peace of mind that comes with it. Cafe 9 replaced all my vacuum lines when mine was there (when I had initially bought it) and there were many that were ready to visibly crack/give way and some were even already taped together.

I will report back on the brake situation - the parts should be here today.

Agree. Thomas is a acquaintance of mine and i trust his judgement on that.
 

TurboLlew

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Pretty happy so far - bedding in and will report back but first impressions are good.

I think the discs were definitely in dire need of changing and going front/rear was the right move.

The Hella Pagid finish and apparent quality seems good - doesn't seem like a budget part or job. There is no way you would say this entire job was the price of one OEM rotor...

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TurboLlew

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While my cars have enjoyed names like Eva, Jessica, Olivia, Emma, Emilia and so forth, the name I find myself using most for the Cayenne is Peppa (as in Peppa Pig LOL). I mean it in the most endearing way of course!

She recently paid a visit to @Clint@MMS AUTO in order to do an annual oil service and switch to Motul oil as well as doing the Transmission oil and filter change. I will be switching my Alfa to 300V at the next oil service as well.

I am a huge fan of Motul, so he didn't have to sell me on this...

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As has been the case with everyone's posts that I've seen, Clint went above and beyond documenting everything.

In terms of the engine oil, I think there is a lot of cleaning that has been going on now with higher quality oil going into it for the past year and despite the mileage being quite low between changes, it did look quite dirty. There is still more yet to go. With another change and flush in March I will rest a bit easier knowing that she is fully on the 'straight and narrow' LOL. Most importantly there were no strange contaminants or metal in the oil which is always a good thing.

I was talked out of doing the transmission service when I first bought the car as Porsche's 'book' says 240000km or 16 years for this car. I am glad that I did it now. Every time I see pics or videos of any transmission service, I am flabbergasted that manufacturers today claim they are 'lifetime lubricated' or 'sealed units'. Absolutely wild... I will actually be doing these services at half this mileage (80000km) going forward.

Anyway at least there was also nothing out of the ordinary and it feels better than ever!

Shift quality in general is night and day. This is particularly noticeable in Sport.

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Up next will be sorting out several cosmetic issues and the next service will include plugs, new coils (preventative) and some suspension components (also preventative, some performance). A nice surprise is that during the inspection of the suspension, the bushings and rubber components all looked to be in good shape. This generation of Cayenne in particular has some beefy and reliable components across the board and is quite repairable.

They Cayenne continues to be a capable and endearing addition to the garage and it has already helped do what good cars are meant to do: Create great memories.

She has done 'berg trips, some minor offroading/softroading activities, rescued errant fanantics in broken E30s (taking kids on their first recovery run :ROFLMAO: ), served as my 'bakkie/hilux' and become a fan favourite shuttling Ballerinas and cricket team members alike who only seem to care that 'It's a Porsche'



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I actually cannot imagine selling or trading this car for any amount of money at this point. What I would like to do is release a little bit more of that VR6 noise - I think with the way it is shifting and sounding now, it is even more 'necessary'

I will be doing some light overlanding/camping additions to it as well. I am still a total n00b when it comes to this stuff but learning.

Thanks for watching and once again, well done to @Clint@MMS AUTO - highly recommended!
 

FILV

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While my cars have enjoyed names like Eva, Jessica, Olivia, Emma, Emilia and so forth, the name I find myself using most for the Cayenne is Peppa (as in Peppa Pig LOL). I mean it in the most endearing way of course!

She recently paid a visit to @Clint@MMS AUTO in order to do an annual oil service and switch to Motul oil as well as doing the Transmission oil and filter change. I will be switching my Alfa to 300V at the next oil service as well.

I am a huge fan of Motul, so he didn't have to sell me on this...

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As has been the case with everyone's posts that I've seen, Clint went above and beyond documenting everything.

In terms of the engine oil, I think there is a lot of cleaning that has been going on now with higher quality oil going into it for the past year and despite the mileage being quite low between changes, it did look quite dirty. There is still more yet to go. With another change and flush in March I will rest a bit easier knowing that she is fully on the 'straight and narrow' LOL. Most importantly there were no strange contaminants or metal in the oil which is always a good thing.

I was talked out of doing the transmission service when I first bought the car as Porsche's 'book' says 240000km or 16 years for this car. I am glad that I did it now. Every time I see pics or videos of any transmission service, I am flabbergasted that manufacturers today claim they are 'lifetime lubricated' or 'sealed units'. Absolutely wild... I will actually be doing these services at half this mileage (80000km) going forward.

Anyway at least there was also nothing out of the ordinary and it feels better than ever!

Shift quality in general is night and day. This is particularly noticeable in Sport.

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Here is a quick vid rather than more pics.



Up next will be sorting out several cosmetic issues and the next service will include plugs, new coils (preventative) and some suspension components (also preventative, some performance). A nice surprise is that during the inspection of the suspension, the bushings and rubber components all looked to be in good shape. This generation of Cayenne in particular has some beefy and reliable components across the board and is quite repairable.

They Cayenne continues to be a capable and endearing addition to the garage and it has already helped do what good cars are meant to do: Create great memories.

She has done 'berg trips, some minor offroading/softroading activities, rescued errant fanantics in broken E30s (taking kids on their first recovery run :ROFLMAO: ), served as my 'bakkie/hilux' and become a fan favourite shuttling Ballerinas and cricket team members alike who only seem to care that 'It's a Porsche'



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I actually cannot imagine selling or trading this car for any amount of money at this point. What I would like to do is release a little bit more of that VR6 noise - I think with the way it is shifting and sounding now, it is even more 'necessary'

I will be doing some light overlanding/camping additions to it as well. I am still a total n00b when it comes to this stuff but learning.

Thanks for watching and once again, well done to @Clint@MMS AUTO - highly recommended!
Pepa was well loved in nice and healthy.

Its going to be interesting which route you go to unleash more of that perfect VR6 sound.
I have noticed most South Africans love exhausts that give it a more raspy sound. I always loved the systems that gave it more of a deeper tone that accentuates that low rev range vura sound and almsot no raspiness. For me this engine is all about that vrrrr sound in the lower revs. (It kills me that its fashionable with the local VR6 crew to sit at the limiter and rev the crap out of them)

I remember reading many years ago that Abel at Viper exhasut spent weeks with a test mule perfecting the design, that eventually produced one that unleashed 7wkw on it (if i remember correctly) mainly from the branch design.. I wonder how their system sounds.
 

Mytfine

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You are going down a route that's best left alone. Leave it standard and use it it was intended.

You will start with the exhaust, then decide to wheels and tyres, then maybe a tune, but now you need bigger brakes! It will never end.

You have sports cars, this is not it. As you said above it's hilux like in the way you just jump in it and do shit you want, dont mess that up.
 

Mytfine

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On the overlanding stuff be careful, its easy to make it 5 % better off road and 90% worse on road.

Off road / camping people tend to lie and say its not bad so they dont have to admit they made a mistake 🤣.
 

Ga-3M

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I’ll post a couple of pics below of my black Cayenne, couple of simple mods and it looks great and still rides exactly the same as stock.
40mm TEMA 4x4 coil spacer lift kit.
30mm Wheel spacers.
285/60R18 A/T Tyres.
Front Runner roof rack.
 

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Ga-3M

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Actually have a spare set of the wheel spacers that I recently took off my Touareg of the same size which have the same pcd etc.
 

Mytfine

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I’ll post a couple of pics below of my black Cayenne, couple of simple mods and it looks great and still rides exactly the same as stock.
40mm TEMA 4x4 coil spacer lift kit.
30mm Wheel spacers.
285/60R18 A/T Tyres.
Front Runner roof rack.

The physics alone just by altering your centre of gravity will change the handling of the vehicle, so please dont take this as an attack, but i don't believe for one second it will be anywhere close to stock.

Please note that i dont want to hijack this mans thread so if this needs futher discussion i suggest we start a new thread.

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Ga-3M

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The physics alone just by altering your centre of gravity will change the handling of the vehicle, so please dont take this as an attack, but i don't believe for one second it will be anywhere close to stock.

Please note that i dont want to hijack this mans thread so if this needs futher discussion i suggest we start a new thread.

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Don’t stress bud, not worried about your opinion. As you say, let’s not derail Llew’s thread, I was giving my real ownership experience, will leave it at that.👍
 

TurboLlew

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Thanks for the comments and inputs guys! (y)

In terms of exhaust it would be more along the lines of a backbox mod than anything too crazy. There are options out there. Definitely after something deep rather than raspy. Also not interested in making it go any faster in the process so it will be stock electronics, electrical, maps etc. Don't want to mess around with any of that.

In terms of the overlanding, I won't be going with anything nuts... though it is very easy to do that and spend the value of the car on 'mods' :ROFLMAO: that front runner roof rack, a light bar, some recovery points and some 'smaller but similar' tyres could work for now. I won't be needing to raise the suspension or anything like that. There are a few wheel options I am looking at (Braid/OZ in 17/18) but I may end up just doing spacers on the OE wheels

I know it doesn't seem to be the case in pics, but the convex vs. flat in person is quite a big aesthetic difference.

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