review BMW Motorplan is not all what it is cracked up to be.

[TurboLlew]

Is that not the raison d'etre and whole proposition of the Motorplan?? even if apparently erroneous, the promises you 5 years of worry free motoring.

The only issue is the oil service intervals which is really more of a 'disagreement' because opinions are based on a wide variety of experiences, reasons and agendas. If you don't buy into the 20000km intervals, just change the oil sooner. BMW will pay for everything from minor front end noises for R1500 to your R400000 engine replacement if it breaks. If it doesn't break, when you take over responsibility for maintenance you have peace of mind that you've looked after it as best as you could.

Every other part of the motorplan proposition is solid... moreso than most of the other brands that offer it. It is becoming more difficult to wait for authorisations etc but the service is still above the rest. You have examples from Audi above. I can echo the stories about Merc. A 1.8L Hyundai had more expensive service costs than an F10 M5 in my case... There are guys on here that had refurbished parts fitted by Porsche under plan... BMW has a pennywise/pound foolish approach to replacing parts excessively but you're getting brand new OEM parts and there is backup.

Even during the motorplan/extended motorplan period (which goes far beyond 100K kms so good luck with the rest of your reasoning there), you should not experience the issues you found. You had a shit salesman (which is par for the course these days), didn't do your homework and you basically never drove the car even during the motorplan period now you are insulting all of us because you have run out of people to be butthurt at and it seems your house has no mirrors.

You are talking as though you have some 'new information' and telling us what sheep we are and whatever we experienced ourselves doesn't matter. You also don't mention why you drove only 5000km in those 4 and a bit years? What are your other cars and experiences that you are judging this against? Whatever the reason, cars that sit develop problems, as mentioned. You will need to treat cars like that in a different way in terms of how they are stored, service schedule etc.

And again... let's go back to your expectations:

BMW must pay for the work of a third party repair shop not 2 months or 6 months... but 2.5 YEARS after plan has expired
BMW must also warranty your car (repaired by this third party performance shop who somehow is to be trusted) for another 23000km
<Checks notes>
on an N55

So now motorplan is shit - we should all change brands right now. To what/who? Who knows?

I agree on getting a Toyota. Even then, don't get a modern Toyota. Direct injection issues are present on LITERALLY ALL MODERN CARS. Buy an older pre-2008 naturally aspirated car if that bothers you. I have 3 cars from three different brands and they ALL will eventually have carbon buildup on intake valves because of it. As with everything, there is no magic to solving this problem. You either add walnut shell blasting to your maintenance schedule at some point or run water/meth injection.

 

[jld010]

These cars are not garage queens..you need to drive them..sorry OP..the fact that some of that information was not disclosed.. sits with you..

I just extended the plan on F82..same mileage as yours..what I got from this thread..change the oil more frequently..even on plan..I will be doing that

 

[Mytfine]

Let me get this right, you have a 2017 bmw that had carbon build up related issues (which is common to all DI cars) and you expect BMW to cover the reoair costs just because the car has low mileage ?

No manufacturer will even consider this so i dont think your rant on BMW is warranted.

 

[General.Massacre]

My,My . BMW owners expectations are very low, it seems that carbon build up and engine damage at 28000km is acceptable. Not surprising BMW feels able to take advantage of its customers.

Not offended, but the damage was done "in plan" at a tender age of 18months old!

Any chance you're Female? Have a Short Undercut hairstyle, and want to speak to our manager?

Listen Linda, if you're coming on a BMW based forum to complain about items that are widely known as inherent by products of a design, (Carbon build up is not strictly BMW), then I think you're in for a rude awakening on this forum.

I think there has been enough explanation on this thread towards your expectations on how you want your issues handled. Buy a cheap old car that you can keep maintained with a Philips Screwdriver, a 10mm spanner and a can of "Start Carb".
Every vehicle owner knows there is a time limit on Motorplan, once thats up, then its up to you. Good luck trying to get anything fought with a dealer after that has expired.

Again, you're being overly critical and nitpicking. You're definitely the type of customer I'd usher out of my shop for a talk, then close and lock the door when you step a foot outside. Just not worth the headache.

 

[Nick]

RIP - rather use UBER.

 

[TBP88]

It sucks your car broke.
It sucks it broke at such low mileage.

But the truth is, it's been *years* since your plan expired. Why would BMW care about you now? They cover you for 5 yrs, if during that 5yrs they gave you uphill (as they have, read about the X5 that went pop on this forum) you'd have everyone here onside and supporting you against a shitty company.

But this isn't that, just swallow the medicine, fix the car and move on with your life. In a sense you are right though, BMW motorplan isn't what it's cracked up to be - when it's expired it's nothing.

 

[Spanky]

RIP

RIP indeed 👀💀 OP is ded.

Eviscerated. Disemboweled.

 

[Gordvisr]

My,My . BMW owners expectations are very low, it seems that carbon build up and engine damage at 28000km is acceptable. Not surprising BMW feels able to take advantage of its customers.

Not offended, but the damage was done "in plan" at a tender age of 18months old!

rather this new owner not doing homework properly now want to blame the brand for his own negligence, sorry been driving the brand for more than ten years, all ( 5 in total ) of them used, never left me stranded.

 

[Nick]

I drove an e90 320i for 9 years - all the way up to 180K. I looked after it, oil changes every 10k.
That car in particular should have been a VBIED - but the care i gave kept it going and still would be if i still had it.
All cars and bikes require extra care over and above the OEM ''cover" - its like owning a penis, you need to take care of it or it will let you down

 

[Stephanv]

I drove an e90 320i for 9 years - all the way up to 180K. I looked after it, oil changes every 10k.
That car in particular should have been a VBIED - but the care i gave kept it going and still would be if i still had it.
All cars and bikes require extra care over and above the OEM ''cover" - its like owning a penis, you need to take care of it or it will let you down

I concur the last statement

 

[tempogroove]

Hi all. Interesting thread to say the least.

So I’m a first time car buyer (I chickened out in 2022). It’s a 2024 bmw at 9000km. Car bought from BMW dealership

In as far as “due diligence ” goes I have:
1) requested service history printout from salesman
2) called BMW myself to compare notes with said printout. They also said they were no comments on it
3) hired a mechanic to test drive and basic check for signs of tampering/paint overs/hidden issues etc. Clean.

I’m taking delivery of the car in 2 days. Any other pointers for when I go pick it up?

 

[Holiman]

Hi all. Interesting thread to say the least.

So I’m a first time car buyer (I chickened out in 2022). It’s a 2024 bmw at 9000km. Car bought from BMW dealership

In as far as “due diligence ” goes I have:
1) requested service history printout from salesman
2) called BMW myself to compare notes with said printout. They also said they were no comments on it
3) hired a mechanic to test drive and basic check for signs of tampering/paint overs/hidden issues etc. Clean.

I’m taking delivery of the car in 2 days. Any other pointers for when I go pick it up?

The model would help as well.

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[tempogroove]

The model would help as well.

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128ti
But also just general checklist of things to do. Like do I request a printout of the predelivery inspection they’re supposed to do? Or will it show up on iDrive?

 

[unobeat]

I drove an e90 320i for 9 years - all the way up to 180K. I looked after it, oil changes every 10k.
That car in particular should have been a VBIED - but the care i gave kept it going and still would be if i still had it.
All cars and bikes require extra care over and above the OEM ''cover" - its like owning a penis, you need to take care of it or it will let you down

Eish
Dead

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[TurboLlew]

Hi all. Interesting thread to say the least.

So I’m a first time car buyer (I chickened out in 2022). It’s a 2024 bmw at 9000km. Car bought from BMW dealership

In as far as “due diligence ” goes I have:
1) requested service history printout from salesman
2) called BMW myself to compare notes with said printout. They also said they were no comments on it
3) hired a mechanic to test drive and basic check for signs of tampering/paint overs/hidden issues etc. Clean.

I’m taking delivery of the car in 2 days. Any other pointers for when I go pick it up?

Buying this sort of car is pretty much the best case scenario for someone that is buying a first car (and a relatively expensive one). It's from a BMW dealer, you have very low mileage, tons of plan remaining and relatively low chance that there are hidden issues or age-related issues waiting for you.

Just two housekeeping things:

1. Make sure that the motorplan inspection is done and transferred over to you ASAP. This is normally fine if it's a BMW dealer and more a concern if it is from third party dealers
2. Set up your app, get all your connected systems working and transferred over to you as well. We didn't do this with my wife's Merc when we bought it, and it was a mission after the fact. Not difficult with BMW but just take advantage of the dealers time to get all this running perfectly. Not unheard of for people to experience issues.

I would be interested to pick your brain (as someone who sounds like they are buying it themselves) - perhaps you can cover some of this in the thread where you post the car after collecting it: Being 2 generations 'out of date' now (personally)... 3 or 4 for some on here we have quite a skewed perception on pricing and attitudes towards it (eg: R700K or R1M are still 'expensive' for most because we were buying M3s and M5s new or almost new for this in years past). There is a belief that we seem to collectively have that young people can't afford these cars, but I am not sure this is really true if I look around. Is the pricing even a concern for younger buyers or is this just the 'normal price' for things. Will you be buying it/leasing it? Do you have a time frame you intend to keep the car for?

Good luck and hope it all goes smoothly!

 

[tempogroove]

Buying this sort of car is pretty much the best case scenario for someone that is buying a first car (and a relatively expensive one). It's from a BMW dealer, you have very low mileage, tons of plan remaining and relatively low chance that there are hidden issues or age-related issues waiting for you.

Just two housekeeping things:

1. Make sure that the motorplan inspection is done and transferred over to you ASAP. This is normally fine if it's a BMW dealer and more a concern if it is from third party dealers

2. Set up your app, get all your connected systems working and transferred over to you as well. We didn't do this with my wife's Merc when we bought it, and it was a mission after the fact. Not difficult with BMW but just take advantage of the dealers time to get all this running perfectly. Not unheard of for people to experience issues.

I would be interested to pick your brain (as someone who sounds like they are buying it themselves) - perhaps you can cover some of this in the thread where you post the car after collecting it: Being 2 generations 'out of date' now (personally)... 3 or 4 for some on here we have quite a skewed perception on pricing and attitudes towards it (eg: R700K or R1M are still 'expensive' for most because we were buying M3s and M5s new or almost new for this in years past). There is a belief that we seem to collectively have that young people can't afford these cars, but I am not sure this is really true if I look around. Is the pricing even a concern for younger buyers or is this just the 'normal price' for things. Will you be buying it/leasing it? Do you have a time frame you intend to keep the car for?

Good luck and hope it all goes smoothly!

1. R700k is expensive for younger buyers. The GTI’s and 3 series you see is them living beyond their means (plenty friends live like this). They qualify to buy the cars but can’t really afford them. 1 tyre burst and they can’t afford to replace it themselves. One chap I knew drove an A4 and would come hustle R100 for petrol mid month.

I have a well paying job, didn’t buy a car for 8 years of my working career, frugal with zero debt. Just investments, savings and using uber. I just liked this car and said f?ck it. One life to live right?

2. I plan on keeping it till the wheel fall off. Unless they release another 128ti. But this might be a limited production - making it even better to keep.

3. Financed it. The opportunity cost of spending R700k cash is too high for me personally. I have ventures that [will] make me more money than I’ll spend on the interest of the car

Side note: went to Builders Warehouse yesterday and bought R1890 worth of car cleaning products that I don’t know how to use. Need to wax it for protection asap though right? Anyway.

Here she is:

 

[jld010]

Like the side skirts and blacked grills..congrats..definately an aggressive look. Enjoy life..this car will get attention from the young girls

 

[Mytfine]

congrats man looks goood, and to add to your post and llew's, i know a few people driving around with 1 bar plus vehicles without insurance, buying used tyres and typically just shooting themselves in the foot every me month with a car installment thats juat frankly insane (to me that is).

Most laughable is a friend with a Porsche but has folding camping chairs in his lounge, i will never ever tire of mocking him

 

[Kishore]

1. R700k is expensive for younger buyers. The GTI’s and 3 series you see is them living beyond their means (plenty friends live like this). They qualify to buy the cars but can’t really afford them. 1 tyre burst and they can’t afford to replace it themselves. One chap I knew drove an A4 and would come hustle R100 for petrol mid month.

I have a well paying job, didn’t buy a car for 8 years of my working career, frugal with zero debt. Just investments, savings and using uber. I just liked this car and said f?ck it. One life to live right?

2. I plan on keeping it till the wheel fall off. Unless they release another 128ti. But this might be a limited production - making it even better to keep.

3. Financed it. The opportunity cost of spending R700k cash is too high for me personally. I have ventures that [will] make me more money than I’ll spend on the interest of the car

Side note: went to Builders Warehouse yesterday and bought R1890 worth of car cleaning products that I don’t know how to use. Need to wax it for protection asap though right? Anyway.

Here she is:


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Congrats on the new wheels. I suggest creating a new thread to showcase this beauty

 

[jld010]

congrats man looks goood, and to add to your post and llew's, i know a few people driving around with 1 bar plus vehicles without insurance, buying used tyres and typically just shooting themselves in the foot every me month with a car installment thats juat frankly insane (to me that is).

Most laughable is a friend with a Porsche but has folding camping chairs in his lounge, i will never ever tire of mocking him

Clearing 60k after tax and paying a 20k car installment with a balloon..that is what it takes these days to purchase BMW Ms..those numbers dont add up.