TurboLlew
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Nothing else sounds quite like the V10 BMWs for the price, but there is a reason they are as cheap as they are. Supercar-grade repair bills that come up frequently.
To keep them valuable and collectible you also have to (like every other car) avoid driving them. People are quick to say something 'holds value' or is 'appreciating in value' when they see one or two examples with almost no mileage for their ages going for a high price... nevermind that they have obviously few willing buyers at those prices in some cases for years).
The V10s given their issues are now in survivor car territory and a well maintained example yes will cost more, because since 2009 it is likely that is has had (by all its owners) around 800K-R1M in maintenance done. Just keeping them going is expensive and they are exotic enough that even a specific dealer won't help - you need specific people who you can trust to work on them and understand the nuances. Maintenance comes the form of rod bearings which are a wear item, throttle actuators which fail at inconsistent mileages and time frames, brakes, clutches, gearbox failures, high pressure VANOS lines (also a wear item? or perhaps just a wildcard that could fail catastrophically any time?)...
Tell me how that R500K M5 or 600K M6 is 'holding it's value' or was a good investment unless you acquired it right at the very bottom of the curve where BMW was giving people R100K trade ins...
Yes a well sorted M6 or M5 'holds value' or might even be appreciating if you take prices from a few years back and just look at cost to acquire. Reality is that this is another poorly used term. The car that cost R1M in 2009 money was selling for R200K in 2015 money and now it is apparently 'appreciating' since it has made its way back to maybe 400/500K in 2022 money...). That owner is accumulating 50-100K bills in a year to keep it worth anything at all which on another V10 car (and people forget Gallardos, Huracan's and R8s exist and also make similar noises...) might cost 10-30K. Over the course of owning these cars your M6 is going to tend towards a total cost of ownership similar to the others without the actual value, looks or performance to match.
Hats off to everyone with a V10 that can justify scheduled maintenance costs, unplanned surprise repairs and losses in value for just 'the noise'. I love them and will probably buy one at some point - but I bought my F10 in part because it was going to be 'cheaper' than the V10s... and given I had my F10 for 6 years that was absolutely true considering my plan extension costs and what I sold it for. Now even in an F90 I still feel the same way LOL.
To keep them valuable and collectible you also have to (like every other car) avoid driving them. People are quick to say something 'holds value' or is 'appreciating in value' when they see one or two examples with almost no mileage for their ages going for a high price... nevermind that they have obviously few willing buyers at those prices in some cases for years).
The V10s given their issues are now in survivor car territory and a well maintained example yes will cost more, because since 2009 it is likely that is has had (by all its owners) around 800K-R1M in maintenance done. Just keeping them going is expensive and they are exotic enough that even a specific dealer won't help - you need specific people who you can trust to work on them and understand the nuances. Maintenance comes the form of rod bearings which are a wear item, throttle actuators which fail at inconsistent mileages and time frames, brakes, clutches, gearbox failures, high pressure VANOS lines (also a wear item? or perhaps just a wildcard that could fail catastrophically any time?)...
Tell me how that R500K M5 or 600K M6 is 'holding it's value' or was a good investment unless you acquired it right at the very bottom of the curve where BMW was giving people R100K trade ins...
Yes a well sorted M6 or M5 'holds value' or might even be appreciating if you take prices from a few years back and just look at cost to acquire. Reality is that this is another poorly used term. The car that cost R1M in 2009 money was selling for R200K in 2015 money and now it is apparently 'appreciating' since it has made its way back to maybe 400/500K in 2022 money...). That owner is accumulating 50-100K bills in a year to keep it worth anything at all which on another V10 car (and people forget Gallardos, Huracan's and R8s exist and also make similar noises...) might cost 10-30K. Over the course of owning these cars your M6 is going to tend towards a total cost of ownership similar to the others without the actual value, looks or performance to match.
Hats off to everyone with a V10 that can justify scheduled maintenance costs, unplanned surprise repairs and losses in value for just 'the noise'. I love them and will probably buy one at some point - but I bought my F10 in part because it was going to be 'cheaper' than the V10s... and given I had my F10 for 6 years that was absolutely true considering my plan extension costs and what I sold it for. Now even in an F90 I still feel the same way LOL.
