Switching from e60 530d MT to e90 330i AT

ffeng

Member
Hi guys,

I'm thinking about switching from my 2006 e60 530d (150k on the clock) to a 2011 e90 330i (84k on the clock).

There is nothing wrong with my 530d, still drives smoothly and am quite happy with it. But it's 10years old, just thinking it might be time to switch.

The 330i I'm eyeing on has idrive, satnav, and still got motorplan until end of Nov (yes it is expiring very soon). Just a couple of questions I have that I need some answers from the fanatics.

1. Fuel consumption, I know 530d would beat 330i in this regard, but would 330i lose by far? I'm currently averaging 8.2L/100km, combined. What sort of average fuel consumption would 330i be?

2. Reliability, 530d has been quite sturdy, would e90 330i be as reliable? Any known problem to look out for?

3. Anything else to be careful with?

Not entirely sure if this is a sensible switch, as I am still enjoying my 530d, but just want to be on the safe side and switch early.

Any comments welcome!
 

zaleonardz

Well-known member
I had 245k on my 530d with MT when I sold it.

Worst mistake I have ever made,

Car was actually sold to my brother in law, and now has close to 280 on it, and nothing wrong

Dont do it man.... you will regret it.

Your future with your 530d is going to look as follow.

Suspension replacement at about 200k, thats going to cost you 20k

Turbo replacement at say anything from 200 to 250 depending on driving style, thats going to cost you 15k about

Vibration damper sometime around 180k thats going to cost you around 5k

Injectors and possibly fuel pump, thats expensive, but mine never went.

Maybe clutch and flywheel.

THats it... that is what is going to break on that car... That is your worst case scenario right there...
 

ffeng

Member
Thanks for the detailed response, much appreciated!

I have got flywheel, clutch kit and vibration damper (pulley) replaced earlier this year, which were expensive, but I guess it's normal wear and tear, especially on MT for a big engine like this. Other than that I have not had any problem with my 530d since owning it.

So back to the question, seeing all the possible failures that might come up in the next 3-5 years, worst case scenario if everything you listed do happen, that would be 50k to fix. So what would the downside be to switch to the 330i, apart from fuel consumption? Why would it be a downgrade to go 330i route? Just want to get all the comments so I have all the facts before making the decision. :ty:

zaleonardz said:
I had 245k on my 530d with MT when I sold it.

Worst mistake I have ever made,

Car was actually sold to my brother in law, and now has close to 280 on it, and nothing wrong

Dont do it man.... you will regret it.

Your future with your 530d is going to look as follow.

Suspension replacement at about 200k, thats going to cost you 20k

Turbo replacement at say anything from 200 to 250 depending on driving style, thats going to cost you 15k about

Vibration damper sometime around 180k thats going to cost you around 5k

Injectors and possibly fuel pump, thats expensive, but mine never went.

Maybe clutch and flywheel.

THats it... that is what is going to break on that car... That is your worst case scenario right there...
 

MikeR

Well-known member
zaleonardz said:
I had 245k on my 530d with MT when I sold it.

Worst mistake I have ever made,

Car was actually sold to my brother in law, and now has close to 280 on it, and nothing wrong

Dont do it man.... you will regret it.

Your future with your 530d is going to look as follow.

Suspension replacement at about 200k, thats going to cost you 20k

Turbo replacement at say anything from 200 to 250 depending on driving style, thats going to cost you 15k about

Vibration damper sometime around 180k thats going to cost you around 5k

Injectors and possibly fuel pump, thats expensive, but mine never went.

Maybe clutch and flywheel.

THats it... that is what is going to break on that car... That is your worst case scenario right there...
:withStu::withStu::coolShake: WHAT HE SAYS... I agree

ChefDJ@TheFanatics said:
This move would be a downgrade.
:withStu::withStu::withStu:
 

Nella11

Member
I've done what you are planning to do a few months ago. ..
Had the same recommendation from fellow fanatics and didn't listen
Biggest dumb ass decision I could have made. . :RedNo:
Needles to say it took me a few days to relies my stupidity and gave the 3 series back....nothing wrong with it and was a lovely vechile but if you first used to a 5.......


So now I'm without a Bmw and looking again for a 530d sport
 

Zound

///Member
Where do you live? Up here at altitude the 330i will be slaughtered by the 530D. Especially in fuel consumption. With an auto box you are going to struggle to keep the average fuel consumption under 11l/100km with the 330i. The 3.0D is just such a great combination of performance and efficiency that nothing can really challenge it.

If you're looking fo a little bit of a change, why not have a downpipe (Remove the catalytic converter) installed and have software done by one of our forum sponsors? The results with diesel cars are incredible, the added bonus is that for the same driving style and manner, the "tuning" will result in improved fuel consumption. Not to mention the smiles you'll get from an easily attainable 600N.m of torque...
 

Lizzard

Active member
ffeng said:
Hi guys,

I'm thinking about switching from my 2006 e60 530d (150k on the clock) to a 2011 e90 330i (84k on the clock).

There is nothing wrong with my 530d, still drives smoothly and am quite happy with it. But it's 10years old, just thinking it might be time to switch.

The 330i I'm eyeing on has idrive, satnav, and still got motorplan until end of Nov (yes it is expiring very soon). Just a couple of questions I have that I need some answers from the fanatics.

1. Fuel consumption, I know 530d would beat 330i in this regard, but would 330i lose by far? I'm currently averaging 8.2L/100km, combined. What sort of average fuel consumption would 330i be?

2. Reliability, 530d has been quite sturdy, would e90 330i be as reliable? Any known problem to look out for?

3. Anything else to be careful with?

Not entirely sure if this is a sensible switch, as I am still enjoying my 530d, but just want to be on the safe side and switch early.

Any comments welcome!

You can see the diesel people on this forum :tiptoe:

OP, I drive an E90 330i manual, although it is a older model 2005. To answer your questions or queries,

1. My fuel consumption is between 10 - 12L / 100km with 12L being a bit of 80% spirit driving, I just hate a polo, if there is something like that. They idiots. If you drive the car with say 20% spirit driving you will get around the 10L/100km and if you hammer this car the whole day, well then you going to fill up sooner then you think, but this car's linear power is awesome, no asma pump crap and not to worry when that puppy is going to pack up. Worry free driving. On the freeway I get around the 7 - 8L/100km. My driving and fuel consumption is based 80% traffic with 20% highway daily

2. The reliability depends mostly on the owner and how he is or had been taking car of the car, if he decided that this car he bought wasnt a family saloon but more a street drag car usage, you get dumb people let me just put it out there. I bought mine with 187000km on the clock and today it is at 220000km on. Still going well. The service you will be looking at around R5000k for a full one, brakes and other suspension parts I do feel will be the same, front ones cost me R1200 and rears R600. I replaced the 2 bushes on the control arms this far, bmw design this stuff like crap and almost all bmw's will end up replacing these. I have to replace a rear shock mount, again a part that worns out over time. Clutch and thrust bearing noise, again as with wear they tend to go, also an all part replacement on all cars.

3. You will need to replace the waterpump and thermostat at some point as these are the parts that goes on this car, notorious for this e90 330i. Also a stupid design but hey this is bmw.

You are going to feel the 3 series being smaller then the 5 series, that is a given and at some stage you will feel it is a downgrade from what you had but the E90 330i is not a bad car. It has linear power so you wouldnt get that instant torque and the pull is going to feel slow. You cant really mod these 330i motor and I have heard of a guy on here you claims his 130i has so much more power, still need to see this but you cant really do the same as on the 530d where with some downpipe and few mods you can boost the power to incredible torque that will rip your back off just stepping to hard on the gas pedal.

Why do you want to do the change if I may ask, look these bmw's can go a lot more kilometers if looked after and it does sound like you are taking care of yours. If it is about just wanting to change because there might come problems later, well lets be honest here. THERE WILL BE on any of the bmw's. So dont change it because you heard something from someone or you scared something might break. Just dont. I drove my E36 to around 460 000km and it was still strong before I traded it. Just keep looking after the car and it will look after you.

It is a different story if you want to change cause you feel like you want to, then well the 330i isnt bad. It doesnt have that instant holy crap now something is happening feeling (torque) but it is more linear and before you know it you will be hurdling down the road faster then you thought.

The only thing that you will be sure of when you do do this trade, and no one can choose for you, is that your turbo worries will be history.Good luck in your choice and note that both these cars are awesome.
 

ffeng

Member
I live in Cape Town, so not too much worried about the high altitude problem. I drive with my head and heart at the same time, so no crazy flat foot driving.

The primary reason I have for considering the change is the age of my 530d, I'm scared that more stuff would start to break, after the replacement of clutch, flywheel and vibration damper earlier this year. I know that the turbo would probably go sometime.

And the 330i I'm considering seems to be a good replacement, has all the bells and whistles with a reasonable mileage, and it is still under motorplan, although not for long, but at least should be quite decent. I guess the general feeling of it being a downgrade from 530d is the torque and the space one gets from a 5.

It seems keeping my 530d is a better decision because it should go a long way, Thanks everyone for your input, it really helped me a lot in making this hard decision.:praise:
 

sash

///Member
something to note is that the e90 will out of motorplan in a year and you will be in a similar boat unless you spend the 30k or so to extend.

Depending on maintenance , e60 could possibly be in better shape as it has been maintained out of plan. I do my research and plan my services, car has not left me on the roadside in 4years and 50k odd kilometers. I have replaced more than you have but mostly because I am more proactive than reactive.

I need pics of your e60 to be understand your dilemma.
 

GoCart

///Member
Don't sell the E60.

It is not only a downgrade due to the power, space and consumption, in fact, the 330i can be pretty efficient as well.

Going from a 5 series to a 3 series is a obvious downgrade, you will know it in the drive, comfort...

The turbo is not guaranteed to go, maintenance is key, oil changes... and use the best oil possible for your car.

Expect suspension bushes to go soon'ish, my E60 is on 174,000km, and the front upper and lower control arm bushes are pooped, having them replaced with Powerflex...

I've owned many cars, and when I got my E60 I could not believe I as wasting my time with other cars for so many rears.
 

RAArmstrong

///Member
Don't be dumb and sell a 530d. It's the perfect balance in a car. You've also just don't the major preventative maintenance so it'll go forever now

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ffeng

Member
Thanks guys! I guess I'll stick around in the dark side a little longer!


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