Overheating or Not 328i e46 with Clutch fan

[Miltonian]

Hi Gizmo

no change to the cooling system.
drove it since last October,
just had an accident and replaced the normal fan with the clutch fan.

Thanx guys
will do the project tomorrow, will provide feedback on Monday

 

[Sankekur]

Sankekur, what do you mean by that? You know you have moved the focus from should I use antifreeze or not as per OP to insulting a bmwfanatic

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And please post Table C as per request in post #11 for the OP from the ebahn.bentleypublishers.com, so that he has all the info required for the antifreeze and distilled water method.

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Sigh, ok so you start of by posting filling/ bleeding instructions that are wrong, I point out this fact and post the correct filling/bleeding instructions as per the workshop manual. Like said this I post this for the benefit of anyone stumbling across the thread so they don't just have your "method" to go by.

You responded to this by saying that the OP has a overheating problem and gave a way of troubleshooting this. And you added that anti-freeze is just a lie and does nothing, its just there to make money. You also said the anti-freeze is too expensive for the average BMW driver to afford.

I respond by saying that it is clear you will not be swayed by your viewpoints as they are based on a belief system and not of facts. I said this based on grounds of your previous statement, regarding the cost and function of anti-freeze.

I then added the functions that anti-freeze perform if you actually bother to read it you will see that I didn't direct it at you, as it was clear it would just lead to an argument, as usually happens when beliefs and facts cross paths.

You responded to this list (even though I didn't direct it to you) by saying that only the part about raising the boiling point is true and the rest is not.
So this is where the ignorance comes in:
One of the things in my list that you regards as false it is lowering the freezing point.........yet you alluded to it performing this same function earlier

plus we are not in the arctic where temperatures drop to way below 0°C.

Does that seem ignorant?

Ok how about one more? I mentioned that it leaves a white to light blue residue when it drive, you say this false.
Below a leaking thermostat housing:

So how about now?
Maybe I should try and post the smell of the anti-freeze when it is leaking out of the system......but I would waver a guess that even if that were possible you would not believe that either.

So two of the things on list you agree with well at least one, the other it depends on how you feel I guess.
Two are things that you can actually perceive with your senses, and they are short term effects, as it happens and you can immediately perceive the results yet you claim them to be false.

Is that ignorant?

Why not one more, I have wasted enough time so far, why not some more.
Pics from a car that didn't have proper coolant in for and unknown period of time:
Lime and rust deposits where the waterpump is mount, also see the two coolant pipes :

Lime on the thermostat:

Lime on the inside of the thermostat housing (far left)

And now from a car that has been using the proper coolant (for at least as long as I have had it)
Thermostat and housing:

But I know this will not convince you of anything, just like said a couple of replies ago, but you wanted an argument.


Edit:

Lizzard, you certainly have gone way off topic in light of the posters request of

do you suggest I flush the engine and radiator first before i get anti-freeze in or just plain put anti-freeze and water and see how it goes ?

Gizmo and Sank.. while i do understand your points of antifreeze and bleeding processes, lets get back to topic chaps.. no need to turn it into a slugfest which it seems its heading in..

to the OP, i suggest you take your car back to your mechanic and bleed the system properly then investigate if this was the reason for the overheating? from there when you have eliminated it and have a better set of information to work on we can all assist.

Good luck!

Only saw your post after I posted, and will remove this post if you want

 

[ChrisBrand]

Thanks for everyones input. Some valuable info to take from this.

OP confirmed that he will tackle this project tomorrow.

Are we in agreement that OP's question has been answered and will wait on OP's feedback?

 

[moranor@axis]

im not going to get involved in this argument but would like to give the OP advise

Miltonian Please do use BMW coolant at the suggested mix ratio it really does not cost much and it keeps the cooling system clean, lubricates your water pump bearings and helps with heat transfer... yes you can save a little by not using it but my thoughts are you will end up paying more than you save later (water pump lubrication is enough of a reason for me to use coolant)

on my car I use BMW coolant with distilled water as well as water wetter at the suggested mix ratio

BMW coolant to lube the water pump
distilled water to prevent scaling in the water system
Water wetter to further boost heat transfer when I track the car

Overkill? maybe but it only cost about R 500 extra when I flush the system once a year so why not :rollsmile:

 

[Gizmo]

Miltonian, you replaced the electric fan between the radiator and the engine with a viscous type fan? If so, there is your problem.