New Gaming Rig Built!

[Burgy]

Hey guys, im pretty excited so I have to share :cartel:

I currently play:

Arma 3: Altis Life
Arma 3: Breaking Point
DayZ Standalone
Starcraft 2
and some others

Im Running a 10mb uncapped line, usually get a 9ms ping in the evenings :skit:

My New Rig:

i5-3570 3.4Ghz
Intel board
8gb DDR3 1333 Ram
MSI Gtx970 - monster!
1TB HDD
Razer black Widow Ultimate keyboard
Razer Chroma 7.1 headphones
Razer something something mouse
Samsung 40inch screen
Windows 8.1 64gb


Loving life!

 

[Nick]

Jees nice machine!!

Are you playing Breaking point local ?

Im dying to play it.

 

[Burgy]

Yep, there are 2 local servers.

Really cool game! Its more or less dayz on the arma 3 engine..

 

[RAArmstrong]

Burgy... I require pics of this or I'll ban you!

:inlove:

 

[gumpertapolloss]

So you going to run a Gtx970 with an I5 3570?

Ever heard of bottleneck?

Great build, would recommend to recheck the board and cpu.

 

[Rommies]

So you going to run a Gtx970 with an I5 3570?

Ever heard of bottleneck?

Great build, would recommend to recheck the board and cpu.

more bottlenecking with the cpu vs ram. As they run hand in hand.

Eitherway burgy...still a nice rig and will play the games no problem.

The only other thing is I will add to your gaming rig is a nice ssd! Game loading is so much faster!

 

[FiRi@Rennzport]

Explain this bottleneck please.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

Explain this bottleneck please.

CPU and RAM are holding back the GFX card, it can process more data than it currently will with the CPU and RAM Burgy has installed. I doubt Burgy will even Notice it on current Gen games, but if he's seeking for more performance, he will need to up RAM and CPU.

 

[Magneto]

i7 and a better board would make u love life more.

Good set up nonetheless

 

[Rommies]

The upside on this is burgy can always upgrade in the future. That is the beauty of not buying a laptop.

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My current rig is as following:

Core i7 3770k coupled with CNPS9900Max zalman fan
Asrock Z77 Fatality
8GB Corsair 1600mhz RAM with CL7 timing
GeForce GTX660Ti
160GB Intel SSD (one of the first ssd's..single layer long time ago)
700WATT CM PSU
CM Stromtrooper case
Last bud not least 1.5TB HDD

And wow...even with my rig I am out dated. Bloody technology moves so fast.

 

[Pho3niX90]

Nice bud.

Rigs are just as addictive as cars. Have 4770K with the msi z87 mobo, 16gb corsair platinums. But my gfx is old nvidia gt440 that I seriously need to upgrade.

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

Got a few machines, but this is my gaming rig

i7 4770K 3.5Ghz
16gb Corsair Ram,
Watercooled
GTX 680 superclocked ~ Currently looking at Titan GTX black
too many harddrives +- 16tb or more. SSD drive for operating system.
Corsair gaming mouse
mac keyboard. ha ha. Just dig the white flat keys.

 

[gumpertapolloss]

Okay, I'm going to try and post this into perspective that is easy to understand.

Reason for mentioning the bottleneck issue is cause I have physically tested it and know for a fact that with a high end Gpu, you will need a high end cpu ie. I7. Even when running an I7 you will have to overclock it to about 4-4.4Ghz to unleash the full potential of a high end gpu.

With the above named cpu, the gpu will most defiantly be bottnecked by the cpu as the power of the gpu is too much for the cpu. Secondly, the cpu is a "non-k" series, meaning it has no overclocking potential.

The ram is fine, as all 1333mhz kits are more than capable enough to run at 1600mhz 24/7 with some overclocking and fine tuning of the latency's.

The board, well I'm no fan of intel boards and according to me they suck! I'm no fan-boy, but choosing for example a beginner MSI, Gigabyte, Asrock, Asus etc... board over an intel would give a great benefit with technology first off, secondly customer support and last but not least, a bit better resale value in the end.

Lastly, I know the bottleneck won't be much, but in game, you will see about as close as 10FPS difference depending on the amount of load the game gives to the Cpu.

As rommies mention, please consider an SSD. I believe it's one the best investments one can make on a PC and will give you great joy.

Prove that a cpu can cause a huge differance.

I5 3570K with 2X7970's. I5 running at 4.8Ghz.

I7 3930K with the same 7970's. I7 running at 5.0Ghz. (yes I know there is a 200Mhz difference, but the i5 would not do 5Ghz and it still does not justify the differance in score)


With the above images, refer to the Gpu score difference, 10k score difference is HUGE!

Also, some people believe benchmarks are irrelevant, I believe they are like a Dino for your pc. :cartel::rollsmile:

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

I just need a massive GPU for rendering RED R3d footage and After Effects. OpenCL and Cuda with as many Cuda cores for me thanks.

 

[Rommies]

@gumper: I think it is a little unfair to try and compare those two setups.

Yes I know what you are trying to say....and yes you are correct...CPU and GPU does work together (and burgy's setup is bottlenecking quite a bit) , but my reason for saying this is because i5 vs i7 in gaming does not make a huge difference. In the i7 there is hyper threading and extra cache which games do not use.
but the fact that this monster i7 can process information a lot faster vs i5..obviously its going to pick up the speed of the GPU as well because it can "transfer" the GPU's pixels a lot faster.

Also remember you are comparing a Ivy bridge 1055 socket CPU with Z77 motherboard compared to the newer technology of Sandy bridge 2011 ASUS rampage iv extreme X79 motherboard.
a big part of 3D mark is CPU testing. And your new setup utilizes the CPU very well.

Like I said,on your new rig obviously the CPU is going to run much stronger vs your old setup.
Thus in the screen shots you provided there is almost 18 000 score difference in CPU testing alone.
Your GPU score in the other hand is a merely short of 10k score difference with the exact same graphics cards. Like I said you are correct... the CPU and GPU def. works together but the big score difference here is the CPU i5 vs CPU i7.

A good read on this here:

One more thing to be aware of, that might clear things up in your mind, is that the resolution that you are running a game in has a direct affect on the GPU's performance and no affect on your CPU.

The CPU provides all of the information that your card requires to render a scene on your display, regardless of the resolution of the render.

Your CPU does not care if the game is running at 640*480 or 3200*2400. In either case the CPU is feeding the same set of data to the GPU.

The GPU on the other hand is performing all of the complex mathematics to draw the information that comes from the CPU to your screen, and the more pixels it needs to render, the more horse power it needs to do it.

So really, the affect on performance of different types of GPU's and CPU's all depends on the types of games you play, and the resolutions you choose. If you play at a low resolution, the CPU will likely become a bottleneck before the GPU. If you play at high resolutions, the GPU will become the bottleneck before the CPU. The whole thing is a balancing act.

Again, it depends on the specific application and how exactly it's using the resources available to it, plus the settings you're running the application on.

You're going to want to make sure your CPU and GPU are well matched, not necessarily that you have a CPU fast enough for "any" video card. If you have an A64 4000+, you're not going to find any games right now that are going to make that the bottleneck. However, it's a waste of power (and money) to have such a fast processor and a card that limits it, or an outrageously fast 850XTPE with an Athlon XP 2200+.

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I think this thread is a very informative read for our IT geeks :rollsmile:

 

[NavZ]

I loved my MSI 970. Virtually Silent at 100% and at anything less than that, the fan turns off :coolShake:

I 'upgraded' to a 780Ti but actually wouldn't mind going back due to noise.

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Barely noticed the performance increase.

 

[Burgy]

So you going to run a Gtx970 with an I5 3570?

Ever heard of bottleneck?

Great build, would recommend to recheck the board and cpu.

Already had the i5, didnt buy it specifically for this build

 

[Burgy]

Ill prob go i7 with an MSI board..

 

[Crash_Nemesis]

Ill prob go i7 with an MSI board..

For gaming you won't need the i7 Burg. Maybe games like DayZ will see improvements due to that game using alot of CPU power more than GPU, but they are changing the render for them to use GPU more, so in the end it won't matter. The i5 is good for your needs. I need the i7 because I do a lot of video rendering etc. So yeah... you good bro.

 

[SEXCZN]

The cpu wont bottleneck anything... 3570 has enough power. most games dont utilize quad cores. The biggest bottleneck in pc gaming is the api lol..

A 3570 is enough for crossfire or sli so a single gpu wont get bottlenecked.