Need a turbo urgently

[stiaan]

Hi guys

Can anybody point me in the direction of a turbo importer?

I need a turbo for my car. Its a Mitsubishi Turbo. BMW part nr 11658506892. Mitsubishi nr is 49135-05885.

I've tried Turbo Direct, Turbo Exchange, Engine Parts and Turbo Chargers.

I obviously don't want a reconditioned or second hand one.

Its actually the actuator that's faulty, but being a electronic actuator, not repairable or replacable without buying a turbo.

Agents price R18500

Thanks guys

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[akash]

What car is it?

 

[DieselFan]

320d I assume. Why can't turbo direct help you?

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[DieselFan]

Why can't the actuator be replace? I don't believe that it's just electronically controlling the arm. In the same why the vacuum doestrogen except electronically...

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[akash]

Thats a steep price for a Turbo.

When the turbos were replaced under MP they cost under R7k per turbo. X35i use Garrett Turbos though.

Have you tried Mr Turbo in Jetpark

 

[stiaan]

This is the 130kw N47 pre LCI 320d.
I tried everywhere, according to everybody I called the actuator can't be replaced.

Turbo direct don't import that specific turbo, Turbo Exchange told me they don't stock is as well

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Got off the line with Mr Turbo now, they also can't help.

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Engine Parts in Johannesburg had one, sold it last week for R12 600, but they say 85 working days if they import another one.

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[akash]

Have you tried Jap auto spares

 

[stiaan]

Damm agents, this morning they gave me a price of R15988 + Vat, after the whole day of googling and phoning around I thought, okay just order it from them and get it over.

When I called them half past 4, to order it, the guy gave me a price of R18400 + Vat.
Asked him, about the price difference within a few hours, he told me that is the price, and if I send in my old Turbo they will give me R2500 credit.

Now I ask you, what does BMW do with the old turbo? Do they recondition it and sell it again as a new one??
So how do I know that I get a brand new turbo, and not a reconditioned one?
And in my case, there's nothing wrong with my turbo, the actuator is faulty?

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[netercol]

cannot see why the actuator cannot be replaced , just need someone that has a bit of a clue, and a new actuator..

the arm length just has to be set to exactly the same length on the new actuator as the old one, and you should be fine.

would not put it past bmw to recon old units.. i once replaced a waterpump on a beemer, and could also only find a replacement from the agents. they would absolutely not give me the part without me returning the old one.

tried ebay ? not sure if these are exactly the right ones, but sure a search will find the right part..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-320d-El...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item338f3a6b53

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-BMW-2-...icles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e8cca84c0&vxp=mtr

 

[akash]

BMW has the turbo re-conditioned

 

[anton-sa]

remember, a turbo is essentially a very simple device. infact a reconditioned turbo if done properly can be better than new. remember 1 person is giving 1 on 1 attnetion to the unit.. instead of factory production line QC

 

[netercol]

remember, a turbo is essentially a very simple device. infact a reconditioned turbo if done properly can be better than new. remember 1 person is giving 1 on 1 attnetion to the unit.. instead of factory production line QC

all true, it is a very simple device but a turbo is also a ultra high precision device. if the person touching it does a half assed job, you are gonna have a bad time. also the diesel turbo's are vnt turbo's. the manufacturers of these are quite adamant that the vnt cannot be properly calibrated without a flow bench.

 

[anton-sa]

remember, a turbo is essentially a very simple device. infact a reconditioned turbo if done properly can be better than new. remember 1 person is giving 1 on 1 attnetion to the unit.. instead of factory production line QC

all true, it is a very simple device but a turbo is also a ultra high precision device. if the person touching it does a half assed job, you are gonna have a bad time. also the diesel turbo's are vnt turbo's. the manufacturers of these are quite adamant that the vnt cannot be properly calibrated without a flow bench.

+1 agreed - but obviously you can sort this out properly and the decent turbo people will have a flow bench afaik.

my point is, if the right man, and company is on the job. the "attention" that the turbo gets is far more and concentrated than on a production line...
where by stats... every n'th unit will be of a lesser quality... etc

 

[Dhp507]

speak to Stallion Turbos also , they do modifications locally. They may have a solution for you

 

[stiaan]

I just ordered the new turbo from BMW this morning, spending yesterday the whole day trying to find one for cheaper

BMW confirmed that they give 24 months gaurantee on the new turbo, so I'm sorted for the next two years haha

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So if somebody will give me more than R2500 + vat for mine they can have it, because I'm getting that back if I return the old one to them.
According to Colin at 808, the turbo is 100%, the actuator is faulty.

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[DieselFan]

I might take it stiaan. Depending if its the new gtb2260v.

Edit. Never mind I'm not thinking straight. its a 320d.

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[netercol]

remember, a turbo is essentially a very simple device. infact a reconditioned turbo if done properly can be better than new. remember 1 person is giving 1 on 1 attnetion to the unit.. instead of factory production line QC

all true, it is a very simple device but a turbo is also a ultra high precision device. if the person touching it does a half assed job, you are gonna have a bad time. also the diesel turbo's are vnt turbo's. the manufacturers of these are quite adamant that the vnt cannot be properly calibrated without a flow bench.

+1 agreed - but obviously you can sort this out properly and the decent turbo people will have a flow bench afaik.

my point is, if the right man, and company is on the job. the "attention" that the turbo gets is far more and concentrated than on a production line...
where by stats... every n'th unit will be of a lesser quality... etc

so.. what you are saying is that a factory like the garrett factory, with their quality control procedures, precision machining and balancing equipment, hand assembly, and everything else needed to turn out a device that operates at 100k rpm for many many thousands of kilometers, by the millions, cannot possibly match the kind of attention that a aftermarket workshop can give a single turbo?

 

[anton-sa]

remember, a turbo is essentially a very simple device. infact a reconditioned turbo if done properly can be better than new. remember 1 person is giving 1 on 1 attnetion to the unit.. instead of factory production line QC

all true, it is a very simple device but a turbo is also a ultra high precision device. if the person touching it does a half assed job, you are gonna have a bad time. also the diesel turbo's are vnt turbo's. the manufacturers of these are quite adamant that the vnt cannot be properly calibrated without a flow bench.

+1 agreed - but obviously you can sort this out properly and the decent turbo people will have a flow bench afaik.

my point is, if the right man, and company is on the job. the "attention" that the turbo gets is far more and concentrated than on a production line...
where by stats... every n'th unit will be of a lesser quality... etc

so.. what you are saying is that a factory like the garrett factory, with their quality control procedures, precision machining and balancing equipment, hand assembly, and everything else needed to turn out a device that operates at 100k rpm for many many thousands of kilometers, by the millions, cannot possibly match the kind of attention that a aftermarket workshop can give a single turbo?

hi.
a little out of context there... what im saying is on a production line you have a batch of X units being made at speed. probably by the minute.

when u have a single turbo loose at a specialist, they are giving it 1 on 1 attention, the time thats going into that 1 turbo is more than at the factory which is most likely party automated...

again, im sure you can read between the lines that im speculating...

im sure its the calibration equipment at the end of the day doing the work, but the time and "care" taken is sort of more attent.

kinda like a kid at school will learn better in a class of 10 kids, than in a class of 50kids due to more time spent per kid / 10..

 

[stiaan]

This is pics of the fault codes and descriptions that Adelle from Garage 808 sent me.

Guys, Garage 808 treated me so good so far, and I know that I can be a pain in the ass haha.
I can really recommend anybody to them.

When I ordered the turbo from Auto Atlantic, the guy there said that he know Colin and Adelle personally, worked with Colin at BMW for a few years, and that Colin were their best BMW technician at the time

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[netercol]

remember, a turbo is essentially a very simple device. infact a reconditioned turbo if done properly can be better than new. remember 1 person is giving 1 on 1 attnetion to the unit.. instead of factory production line QC

all true, it is a very simple device but a turbo is also a ultra high precision device. if the person touching it does a half assed job, you are gonna have a bad time. also the diesel turbo's are vnt turbo's. the manufacturers of these are quite adamant that the vnt cannot be properly calibrated without a flow bench.

+1 agreed - but obviously you can sort this out properly and the decent turbo people will have a flow bench afaik.

my point is, if the right man, and company is on the job. the "attention" that the turbo gets is far more and concentrated than on a production line...
where by stats... every n'th unit will be of a lesser quality... etc

so.. what you are saying is that a factory like the garrett factory, with their quality control procedures, precision machining and balancing equipment, hand assembly, and everything else needed to turn out a device that operates at 100k rpm for many many thousands of kilometers, by the millions, cannot possibly match the kind of attention that a aftermarket workshop can give a single turbo?

hi.
a little out of context there... what im saying is on a production line you have a batch of X units being made at speed. probably by the minute.

when u have a single turbo loose at a specialist, they are giving it 1 on 1 attention, the time thats going into that 1 turbo is more than at the factory which is most likely party automated...

again, im sure you can read between the lines that im speculating...

im sure its the calibration equipment at the end of the day doing the work, but the time and "care" taken is sort of more attent.

kinda like a kid at school will learn better in a class of 10 kids, than in a class of 50kids due to more time spent per kid / 10..

alright, guess we will agree to disagree on this.. :=):

last thing i will say on the subject though. the best a aftermarket repair shop can hope for in remanufacturing a turbo is to match factory clearances and specs.. they will not better it. i have stripped enough turbo's to firmly believe this.
even on this forum there are far more cases of reman/repaired turbo's failing again in short order than new replacements failing.

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