My First Auction Experience

iyerm2

New member
Hi
Thought i would jsut share my experience at my first auction for those who are thinking about going to one

Anyhow the vehicle that i went there to chase, was a BMW Z4 M Coupe 2009 with 16K on the clock

I did all the neccesary background checks went to view the car the day before the auction
The car was still under MP and had no comments and was not involved in an accident
The car to me was in a very good condition bar one small scratch on the front grill. It smelt like a brand new car and there was no sign of any panel work on the car. The engine bay looked good as if the car just rolled of the show room floor.

The first thing i did was make a list of all the prices i was willing to spend on the car excluding VAT and then coverted them to prices including VAT as its pretty hard to this on the spot at the auction.
i wud recommend doing this as u can get quite excited whilst bidding

Anyhow i said the maximum price i was willing to go to was about R335K incl VAT since u cant drive the car and hence dont really have any idea what is possibly wrong

So anyway the bidding started for the car (i was a bit nervous).
**All prices below include VAT
One guy blurted out R280K as a starting bid and I went to R290K
From there the bidding went to about R310K which accoridng to the dealers there was the book value so all of them tapped off and there were only 2 of us private bidders left.
I was quite confident that when i offered R320K for the car that i wud get it cos the other guy didnt look too convinced,
THEN out of nowhere another guy appears and starts to bid against me. We go up in increments of a R1000 before he gets sort of irritated with me and then offers R370k for the car!!

I was dumbfounded and so were most of the other guys in the auction cos according to them, this was 60K above book value for a car he had never driven!

Anyhow i spoke to guy afterwards and he said he was a car collector and he has like 20 cars
I was very depressed cos i thought the car would have been a really great buy for R320K

Anyway i am pretty sure that the dealers got the book value wrong cos the 2007 M coupe book value os R309K so higly doubt the 2009 is R310k

All in all it was a good experience, but a very depressing one was well

The search goes ON for the Z4M that has now eluded me for the sixth time!



 

iyerm2

New member
hiltonfa said:
I feel your pain, been there done that. I am also looking for a Z4 m coupe, not easy to find.



How many have u seen so far and what price range have u been offering
I'm finding it pretty hard to convince myself to buy any 06 models since most of the motorplans expire next year sometime

I have let some really good bargains slip through my hands so far
Some clean 09's and 08's

Thing is that the car is easy to sell when the milage is below 70k
Once it goes above this, guys struggle to sell at good prices
U have to be clever when u buy this car which is why i am taking my time
However now i am getting a bit irritated with myself!!
 

Cole

New member
sad that its not going to get driven if it went to a collector.
maybe it was his first auction and he didn't realise the bidding price excluded vat.... whoops :biglol:
 

Onyx

Active member
Cole said:
sad that its not going to get driven if it went to a collector.
maybe it was his first auction and he didn't realise the bidding price excluded vat.... whoops :biglol:

I'm guessing, that as a collector... He aint strapped for cash :=):
 

Adi

///Member
Think this is a long processes, and not necessarily a once off event, better luck next time
 

hiltonfa

///Member
iyerm2 said:
hiltonfa said:
I feel your pain, been there done that. I am also looking for a Z4 m coupe, not easy to find.



How many have u seen so far and what price range have u been offering
I'm finding it pretty hard to convince myself to buy any 06 models since most of the motorplans expire next year sometime

I have let some really good bargains slip through my hands so far
Some clean 09's and 08's

Thing is that the car is easy to sell when the milage is below 70k
Once it goes above this, guys struggle to sell at good prices
U have to be clever when u buy this car which is why i am taking my time
However now i am getting a bit irritated with myself!!

Found an 08 with 58K on the clock, car was very clean the guy was looking for R290 000. After checking found the car had been involved in an accident.
 

KaMoS

Member
My problem with auctions is that often there are ghost bidders that drive up the price by playing on people's emotions. It's sad actually, because some people buying way above the price that the vehicle is worth.
 

Spy007

///Member
KaMoS said:
My problem with auctions is that often there are ghost bidders that drive up the price by playing on people's emotions. It's sad actually, because some people buying way above the price that the vehicle is worth.

Same has happened to me. I was lucky and pulled. Had 3 'Bidders" suddenly appear out of nowhere. Especially if they smell you are keen to buy
 

iyerm2

New member
iyerm2 said:
evilsee said:
Was it a Burchmores by any chance?

No - It was Park Villiage auctions



iyerm2 said:
iyerm2 said:
evilsee said:
Was it a Burchmores by any chance?

No - It was Park Villiage auctions



iyerm2 said:
iyerm2 said:
evilsee said:
Was it a Burchmores by any chance?

No - It was Park Villiage auctions



iyerm2 said:
iyerm2 said:
evilsee said:
Was it a Burchmores by any chance?

No - It was Park Villiage auctions





 
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scunick

Guest
Z4 ///MCoupes are running at about 40k behind book so R310k is about right. I picked up my 07 with 40k on the clock for 270k...
Just keep looking... The right car will arrive:)
 

Daevanam

Member
I've always wondered the logic behind some dealers.

When I was searching for a car I attended a few auctions myself. I found cars going for mental prices. Almost always to dealers. How do they except to make their money back on cars? Do they get some sort of kick back from the banks or auction houses?

I'll give you a few examples. I saw a Ford Fiesta ST, yes very popular, with 70k on the clock go to a dealer in Cape Town for 140k ex vat and auctioneer fees. THATS INSANE!! How do they do it? Where's the logic?
 

MikeR

Well-known member
:nonono: - 2007 and 2009 you going to have to add a few more dineros to that price guys, they trade did not bid because it was out of their pocket, your friend the collector will give you more info on the value of these babies...a lot more sort after than you can imagine now.

I have been asked a few times if I want to sell by my mate at BMW. they have plenty buyers looking.
 
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