M5 Diesel!!

Nic_s

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Link: http://www.dailytech.com/Report+BMW+to+Launch+Diesel+Version+of+M5+Next+Spring/article22477.htm

Diesel M5 will have less horsepower than gas version, but loads of torque

In Europe, the diesel engine has been a staple in automobiles due to its fuel efficiency and the price of gasoline. However, there are relatively few diesel cars in the U.S. even though the engines are common in heavy-duty trucks.

BMW has confirmed that it will be producing the first diesel vehicle to ever wear the M badge in the company's performance vehicle line. BMW will be producing a diesel-powered M5 next spring that will feature three turbochargers. The same engine will also be used in other BMW vehicles like the X5 and X6 crossovers.

The Detroit Bureau reports that the vehicle will be called the 550dM or the 550dXM with the latter featuring an all-wheel drive system. The Detroit Bureau also reports that the diesel engine would be a version of the current straight-six diesel beefed up for M duty.

If the engine is in fact a straight six, it will reportedly use one small turbo to build boost for launch, while two larger turbos will come online for extra mid-range and high-end power.

The publication also claims that sources have told it that the 550dM will make "slightly less" power than the gasoline M5's rated 560 HP output with final numbers expected to be in the 500 to 550 HP range. However, the torque output will be massive at up to 650 lb-ft. The copious torque is pointed to as the reason for the all-wheel drive option.

"You have to go to all-wheel-drive,” explained one senior BMW official, “otherwise you’ll be spinning your tires all day."

GM will be producing a diesel version of the Cruze as well, though it is far from a performance vehicle. However, this shows that the trend in using diesel engines in the U.S. is growing.

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Coisman

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:pimp:
If you take this thing on it will leave you in a cloud of smoke... from all the diesel fumes! :mmm:
 

P1000

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moranor said:
I6 has more space for the 3 turbos...

So this is then more of a diesel turbine engine then? :rollsmile:

If you had 8 cylinders, you would not need 3 turbos, but you would need to fill up more.
 

moranor@axis

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diesel turbine :rollsmile:

im guessing the largest turbo is huge thats why they need the smaller ones to boost while the big one builds up...

i find it interesting that they have dropped the variable vane turbos... it must not work well enough...

i would love to see a petrol version of this...
 

P1000

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moranor said:
i find it interesting that they have dropped the variable vane turbos... it must not work well enough...

Where have they dropped them? They are still well in use with the single turbo diesel engines. The thing is, it is not necessary with sequential turbo setups, and it ads a lot of unnecessary complexity. Both in terms of things that will need maintenance at >100kkm and in terms of the control system.
 

moranor@axis

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i know its not needed with this setup, but why did they not go variable vane with 1 turbo then? doesn't the M5 have 4 turbos also? is seems they dont want to continue on that route...
 

Hellas

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Suppose it's something they learned from the vtec boys...boost just kicked in yo...and it's addictive!
 

Fordkoppie

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I HATE it.
They should start building ///M3 John Deeres if this is the direction they are heading.
With each passing day I am losing face value with BMW
 

moranor@axis

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i was wrong the m5 only has 2 turbos... i would still like to know why they went sequential on the D...
 

P1000

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Sequential means you can get much higher boost levels, which you cannot achieve with twin(parallel) turbos (well, not without ages of lag and a high threshold). Twin turbo like on the M5 petrol is almost always due to space restrictions and offers little in the form of reduced lag, contrary to popular belief.
 
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