Joburg speed cameras are offline...

[ChefDJ]

Joburg speed cameras are offline – and no fines have been issued for months report

A move by the DA government in Johannesburg to clean-up contracts with service providers has halted the electronic enforcement of speed limits in the city.

According to a report by MoneyWeb, citing anonymous sources within the administration, the intervention has also seriously affected general law enforcement in the area.

In March 2017, the city reportedly cancelled service contracts with five service providers who supplied equipment and systems to generate the fines.

Because it is unlawful to contract a new provider without setting out a tender, the city has been without cameras or systems to issue the volumes of speeding fines it used to.

These service providers helped the department generate between R30 million to R35 million per month from traffic fines, former JMPD director Gerrie Gerneke told MoneyWeb – which has now been reduced to R3 million.

Gerneke said that he was worried that motorists could now speed on the city’s roads without consequences.

Sources confirmed that no new electronic traffic fines had been processed or loaded onto the National Contravention Register since the service providers were given the boot, MoneyWeb reported.

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[rsgordini]

We were talking about it not long ago with a friend.. we haven't seen cops trapping nor received fines in months... which is weird...

Oh well.. still got to be safe for other idiot drivers out there..

 

[Nick]

midnight run!!!!

 

[ZaynM]

midnight run!!!!

When?

 

[MikeR]

We were talking about it not long ago with a friend.. we haven't seen cops trapping nor received fines in months... which is weird...

Oh well.. still got to be safe for other idiot drivers out there..

:blueCry: Not so true - I received two in the last two months, so be careful guys it might just be certain areas.

 

[Taran Rodrigues]

We were talking about it not long ago with a friend.. we haven't seen cops trapping nor received fines in months... which is weird...

Oh well.. still got to be safe for other idiot drivers out there..

right by my house they've been trapping a lot this week they were there at least once

and in the past few months i would say as many as 10 times and maybe more

 

[osiris]

I have seen these guys trapping this week and I have received a fine not so long ago for doing i think 87 in an 80 zone or something along those lines So I wouldn't trust this.

 

[TurboLlew]

Yeah, don't forget the pilot out at the moment with the connected car and onboard measurement equipment. They will hunt you down on the highway if you are going past 160...

Either way this is not a free pass.

 

[WIDEOPN-X5]

The bigger picture is possibly being missed..... The notion that this is about safety on the roads is quickly dispelled when I note the focus on the "reduced revenue" from about R30million to R3million a month....

So there it is right there. Speed trapping has little to do with road safety and LOT'S to do with revenue generation.

I have a traffic law enforcement model which I developed over years of observation and many many 100's of thousands of km's travelled. at the core of the model is one fundamental difference. There is NO MONEY in my model.

"Enforcement" is done by citation (strike 1) and "sin bin" (strike 2) same day etc etc....

Repeat offenders will see themselves sitting at roadside "detention" centres for hours as punishment. Ask youselves this, would you behave better on the road if you knew that there was the potential to be detained for an hour or 2 due to speeding? No money. No "just give me a fine and I am on my way"

I can tell you what my position is......

And the benefit of this system? All of those traffic officers that used to sit behind speed trapping devices are in vehicle and patrolling with dashcams recording the evidence of moving violations that cause accidents that result in fatalities.....

Not rocket science.....

Will it ever happen? Doubt it.....why? Re-read the first paragraph....

We hear from time to time that road fatalities cost the economy Billions every year. My proposal requires a budget of R250 million for the first year for a pilot project .....

Anyway:cthulhu:

 

[Pho3niX90]

Well I have received a few.

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[individj]

they don't care about road safety...in Cape Town JP Smith's main focus is street street racing versus taxis, busses & trucks!!! buses are bad in CT...my wife has to dodge taxis driving on the wrong wide of the road & jumping robots with my kids in the car on the daily! its shocking. They had a sting at the taxi rank & that shot a traffic cop...never saw another operation after that

 

[Lizzard]

I think there is more a disconnect in that department, they dont know what the other one is doing. No team work and as said it is more revenue then safety

 

[Nobz330i]

Heard about this in the morning on 702 & a JMPD person said they have deactivated.... Apparently since Feb.

 

[Rory]

I want to see the stats on accidents/deaths etc during this "free for all" period. See if speeding fines actually change anything...

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[r0ckf1re]

The bigger picture is possibly being missed..... The notion that this is about safety on the roads is quickly dispelled when I note the focus on the "reduced revenue" from about R30million to R3million a month....

So there it is right there. Speed trapping has little to do with road safety and LOT'S to do with revenue generation.

I have a traffic law enforcement model which I developed over years of observation and many many 100's of thousands of km's travelled. at the core of the model is one fundamental difference. There is NO MONEY in my model.

"Enforcement" is done by citation (strike 1) and "sin bin" (strike 2) same day etc etc....

Repeat offenders will see themselves sitting at roadside "detention" centres for hours as punishment. Ask youselves this, would you behave better on the road if you knew that there was the potential to be detained for an hour or 2 due to speeding? No money. No "just give me a fine and I am on my way"

I can tell you what my position is......

And the benefit of this system? All of those traffic officers that used to sit behind speed trapping devices are in vehicle and patrolling with dashcams recording the evidence of moving violations that cause accidents that result in fatalities.....

Not rocket science.....

Will it ever happen? Doubt it.....why? Re-read the first paragraph....

We hear from time to time that road fatalities cost the economy Billions every year. My proposal requires a budget of R250 million for the first year for a pilot project .....

Anyway:cthulhu:

They going to leave that detention center and try to make up the 1 or 2 hour stop they just had. They already late so fhark it if they get stopped again.

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They have issued 35 million worth fines or got actual Revenue for that value of fines? I find it hard to believe people who pay so many fines.


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[cOlDFuSiOn]

Also find it hard to believe people pay 35bar in fines.. People can barely survive in this economy let alone pay fines...

 

[r0ckf1re]

Also find it hard to believe people pay 35bar in fines.. People can barely survive in this economy let alone pay fines...

To top it off, they say thats per month. Does anyone even pay the fine immediately. This seems to be all BS to me.

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[ChefDJ]

Also find it hard to believe people pay 35bar in fines.. People can barely survive in this economy let alone pay fines...

There are also a lot of rich people out there that will tick every payable fine once logged into PayCity or whatever the site is and pay them all one shot, even if worth 50k.

Also, a lot of fines paid are by large companies with massive fleets of vehicles. They would rather pay the fine and deduct it from the driver's salary than risk the company being dragged to court.

 

[osiris]

I think they telling us the cameras are deactivated as a ploy to get people to speed and get more fines lol.

You can't exactly say in court "Oh but you guys said the cameras were deactivated and offline" :crazylaugh:

 

[Pho3niX90]

I think they telling us the cameras are deactivated as a ploy to get people to speed and get more fines lol.

You can't exactly say in court "Oh but you guys said the cameras were deactivated and offline" :crazylaugh:

Definitely the case, i have received 20 fines the last month while driving the speed limit in the ranger I might add. Every single day I get a fine and do not know why. Just get smses

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