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Still need to go see this...
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Saw it at Cresta last night, awesome movie!
Not one for the SO tho - pretty graphic.
Not one for the SO tho - pretty graphic.
Crash_Nemesis
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Damn... what a great film. Visceral as hell. Last film that made me feel like "war is hell", was Saving Private Ryan.
My Girlfriend is German, born and raised and only moved to South Africa when she was 11. So, for her the film was pretty hectic, as she speaks German and there are a lot of subtitles the film doesn't show that really made it hard for her to watch. If you've seen the film, you'll know which scenes I am talking about.
It's almost anti German in a way. But it isn't...
It almost fell into the trap where most American war films of the post 911 era did, where they make the USA out to be these badass guys that save the world and the enemy, in this case, the bad Germans, deserve to get beat. It really came close to being one of those films, almost propaganda in a way, but it didn't. There were moments where I was expecting the film to become that, but in the end, its a story about one crews view of the war through a confined, hot, rumbling metal coffin, surrounded by nothing but the death of friends against an enemy that would not surrender even when the odds were against them. We watch how the war had made Brad Pitt and his veteran tank crew grow cold. They're desensitized and careless about humanity in a way. We see how they've almost become barbarians in a way, and that they themselves, are no better than the enemy they paint as a ruthless killer. There is an interesting scene where we pause from all the death and destruction to watch Brad Pitt try desperately to hold onto what sense of civil morality he has left when he asks a German woman of a town they just liberated, if she would make him eggs. The scene is actually very intense as the film director keeps us on our toes, not knowing what Brad or the woman will do. The introduction of Logan Lerman's character as the new inexperienced support gunner for the crew cemented that dark viewpoint that Pitt's crew has on humanity, as we as an audience got to watch the difference/contrast in mindsets between a tank crew that had been through hell and a young freshman straight out of basic training. His fresh innocence is our viewpoint as we enter into their world. We're riding shotgun with him on this journey.
Great film. Deserves to be seen on the big screen with Atmos surround sound.
My Girlfriend is German, born and raised and only moved to South Africa when she was 11. So, for her the film was pretty hectic, as she speaks German and there are a lot of subtitles the film doesn't show that really made it hard for her to watch. If you've seen the film, you'll know which scenes I am talking about.
It's almost anti German in a way. But it isn't...
It almost fell into the trap where most American war films of the post 911 era did, where they make the USA out to be these badass guys that save the world and the enemy, in this case, the bad Germans, deserve to get beat. It really came close to being one of those films, almost propaganda in a way, but it didn't. There were moments where I was expecting the film to become that, but in the end, its a story about one crews view of the war through a confined, hot, rumbling metal coffin, surrounded by nothing but the death of friends against an enemy that would not surrender even when the odds were against them. We watch how the war had made Brad Pitt and his veteran tank crew grow cold. They're desensitized and careless about humanity in a way. We see how they've almost become barbarians in a way, and that they themselves, are no better than the enemy they paint as a ruthless killer. There is an interesting scene where we pause from all the death and destruction to watch Brad Pitt try desperately to hold onto what sense of civil morality he has left when he asks a German woman of a town they just liberated, if she would make him eggs. The scene is actually very intense as the film director keeps us on our toes, not knowing what Brad or the woman will do. The introduction of Logan Lerman's character as the new inexperienced support gunner for the crew cemented that dark viewpoint that Pitt's crew has on humanity, as we as an audience got to watch the difference/contrast in mindsets between a tank crew that had been through hell and a young freshman straight out of basic training. His fresh innocence is our viewpoint as we enter into their world. We're riding shotgun with him on this journey.
Great film. Deserves to be seen on the big screen with Atmos surround sound.
Crash_Nemesis
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Ah yes... the tracer rounds... Boy did this director do his homework. Something we don't see in most war films are proper tracer rounds. They don't just make nice shiny bullet streaks, but actually ricochet and fly off into the air. That also gave the film a visceral feel.
Regarding the use of the STG 44. Maybe his character liked the idea of killing Germans with a German made rifle. But also, the grease gun looks like a wimpy gun. It suited Lerman's character, but the STG 44 looks bad ass, so it in tern suited Pitt's character better.
The STG 44 would have made a significant difference for the Jerries had they been supplied with them before 1945. By then, it was too late.
Regarding the use of the STG 44. Maybe his character liked the idea of killing Germans with a German made rifle. But also, the grease gun looks like a wimpy gun. It suited Lerman's character, but the STG 44 looks bad ass, so it in tern suited Pitt's character better.
The STG 44 would have made a significant difference for the Jerries had they been supplied with them before 1945. By then, it was too late.
RAArmstrong
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Im half tempted to go see it in IMAX :fencelook:
Ah yes, the good old Sturmgewehr 44. The grandfather of the assault rifle - AK47, M16, R4 etc. etc. It even gave its name to the genre.
The M3 grease gun was a .45-caliber submachine gun that packed a lot less punch than the 7.92×33mm StG44.
Legend has it that Hitler didn't like it and tried to put a spanner in the works. Just like he did with the Me-262 fighter. In both cases the Fuhrer induced delays worked against the German war effort.
PS: great article on the StG44 here:
Sturmgewehr: Hitler’s Only True Wunderwaffe
http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2087
The M3 grease gun was a .45-caliber submachine gun that packed a lot less punch than the 7.92×33mm StG44.
Legend has it that Hitler didn't like it and tried to put a spanner in the works. Just like he did with the Me-262 fighter. In both cases the Fuhrer induced delays worked against the German war effort.
PS: great article on the StG44 here:
Sturmgewehr: Hitler’s Only True Wunderwaffe
http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2087
RAArmstrong
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RAArmstrong
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I saw the movie over the weekend. It was pretty good. They really tried to get it right. They even used a real Tiger tank. Pity that Brad Pitt wears the insignia of a staff sergeant but is addressed as first sergeant and "top," which is army slang for first sergeant. Ouch.
The final showdown is way over the top. Why would one tank crew choose to defend a broken down tank against a battalion strength opposition? That is equipped with panzerfausts as well? And this at the very end of the war, when the war was pretty much won? All a bit too Hollywood.
The final showdown is way over the top. Why would one tank crew choose to defend a broken down tank against a battalion strength opposition? That is equipped with panzerfausts as well? And this at the very end of the war, when the war was pretty much won? All a bit too Hollywood.
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