f82 m4 vs m4 comp real world comparisons?

arnoldS3

New member
Hi Gents,

I'm playing around with the thoughts of an M4 and was wandering if there is any additional real world input i get from you guys around the normal m4 vs comp topic.

AFAIK the differences/extra's the comp has are:
- Adjustable Dampening on suspension
- Lighter bucket seats with those cutouts
- Blacked out rear //M badge
- Blacked out exhaust tips
- More burbles/ deeper exhaust note
- 666m 20 inch wheels

Alot of reviews says the normal M4 is better real world car to go for as the comp suspension can be a bit stiffer even with the dampening settings and the normal M4 is slightly lighter and perhaps marginally quicker car through the gears..

Any thoughts are welcome, thanks
 

Rish///M

///Member
Depending on the year model you getting (in or out of plan). If you slap on a BM3 tune on the non comp, you wouldn’t notice the power difference. And you get the burbles.

The aesthetics you can change from non comp (black grills, black rear badge and exhaust tips).
The seats on the comp are much nicer though.

The suspension is not a big deal unless you getting one with FULL M Adaptive suspension. The ride quality is from the 20s vs the 19s.
You need the 20s with a tune as the 19s just don’t grip but has better comfort.

I own a F80 and have driven the F82 (comp and non comp). Not a huge difference from either.

End of the day it comes down to budget and what you specifically looking for.

Sorry for the mixed notions but just my opinion on both.


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arnoldS3

New member
Depending on the year model you getting (in or out of plan). If you slap on a BM3 tune on the non comp, you wouldn’t notice the power difference. And you get the burbles.

The aesthetics you can change from non comp (black grills, black rear badge and exhaust tips).
The seats on the comp are much nicer though.

The suspension is not a big deal unless you getting one with FULL M Adaptive suspension. The ride quality is from the 20s vs the 19s.
You need the 20s with a tune as the 19s just don’t grip but has better comfort.

I own a F80 and have driven the F82 (comp and non comp). Not a huge difference from either.

End of the day it comes down to budget and what you specifically looking for.

Sorry for the mixed notions but just my opinion on both.


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Tx for input Rish, I need to do some research on that Full M adaptive suspension story.
I can definitely fell the difference with the 20s and 19s aswell..
The seats are definitely nicer aesthetically, although they fundamentally feel the same as normal ones.

In the budget im looking at there is only one comp and also one normal f82 that has some extended plan left.. so that is kind of the trade off that Im thinking about right now.. 6 months worth of plan comfort/safety net vs Competition pack extras( better potential resale even though not concerned with that)

Would like the updated Idrive aswell but i see the 2016 models dont come with the ID6 as yet..
 

msm

Well-known member
If you're going with a non comp, you can still find one optioned with Adaptive M suspension. For me, that made a huge difference and I would not buy a car without one.

I test drop a few 2014/2015 non comp before buying my (ex) 2015 F82 and only one comp (I think it was a 2018 model). Not sure if the one comp had issues, but it definitely felt "lazier" low down in the RPM range, compared to the non comp when driving normally. Driving it a bit harder and I could not really tell a difference. Obviously, if you tune them, they would be about the same across the rev range.
 

2slickgp

Active member
I had a 2015 F80 M3 non-comp without adaptive chassis control and I must say the car was a lot smoother on stock 19's vs the 666m on the comp. However the comp feels a lot more dialed in, the non-comp felt a bit rawer in terms of traction and almost always wants to spin out in comparison to the comp. I think the change in mapping on the comp puts the power down a lot better and more progressively than that of the non-comp. In terms of resale, I think the comp will definitely hold more value in the long term case in point with the e92's on the market. The 2016+ models have some slight improvements interior-wise: White backlit climate control when lights off and ambient lighting around the center aircon stack but other than that and the seats in the comp, there's not much difference from an interior perspective. The burbles on the comp stock are addictive but as mentioned BM3 resolves that. Comp does feel a lot faster than non-comp but it's purely to how it gets the power down/traction. I ran 20's on both cars with H&R Supersports and the ride is pretty much the same just with adaptive suspension on the comp where sport/sport+ you feel it get a lot stiffer
 

arnoldS3

New member
Thanks for the participation gents.. other than checking the vehicles options list with vin, while shopping around how would one tell if the adaptive M suspension is fitted? would it be that small button with the shock icon on it that allows you change between comfort, sport and sport+? or is there more to it than those dampening options..

I am coming from a f30 340i and i must say the zf auto box like one would expect is alot smoother and easier to live with down low.. the DCT feels almost like a manual car in the lower gears.. especially 1st.. i guess thats part of the sports car experience.. having a more visceral raw experience..
 

Quick///M

Well-known member
I had two M4s both although not comps, and the second one being fully spec'd. I can say that the adaptive suspension makes a huge difference. I hated the ride on the M4 without adaptive. I have driven a few comps as well both the convertible and coupe, from what I could tell is that the comps feel more grounded on the road it hugs corners better but my non comp M4, extra benefit was the exhaust note and burbles. That left me sour because I didn't have it. Someone said non comp feels more raw yes I do agree, raw in the sense of a hooligan who can't be tamed and just wants to unleash all its rage at once.

If I were you comp would get my vote.
 

arnoldS3

New member
I had two M4s both although not comps, and the second one being fully spec'd. I can say that the adaptive suspension makes a huge difference. I hated the ride on the M4 without adaptive. I have driven a few comps as well both the convertible and coupe, from what I could tell is that the comps feel more grounded on the road it hugs corners better but my non comp M4, extra benefit was the exhaust note and burbles. That left me sour because I didn't have it. Someone said non comp feels more raw yes I do agree, raw in the sense of a hooligan who can't be tamed and just wants to unleash all its rage at once.

If I were you comp would get my vote.
Hey guys, shohh no you were right about the suspension, I went and drove a normal M4 that had the 20s on and it felt terrible, even on normal roads that were not too bumpy, cant imagine living with that. I realise now more and more that this is not a car for daily trips. That adaptive M suspension option is definitely a must..
 

ArnyT

Member
guys just saw a pure edition m4 at the most notorius dealers out there.. done some reading and seems like this is basically a comp pack without some of the creature comforts like.. pdc. reverse camera.. full leather seats.. electric seats.. harmon kardon.. anyone out there have experience with this pure edition? wonder if it will have adaptive m susp as std if its based on comp..
 

KPM3_30

Moderator
Staff member
guys just saw a pure edition m4 at the most notorius dealers out there.. done some reading and seems like this is basically a comp pack without some of the creature comforts like.. pdc. reverse camera.. full leather seats.. electric seats.. harmon kardon.. anyone out there have experience with this pure edition? wonder if it will have adaptive m susp as std if its based on comp..
@R!Yo would be able to help - he has a pure edition.
 

ArnyT

Member
If you're going with a non comp, you can still find one optioned with Adaptive M suspension. For me, that made a huge difference and I would not buy a car without one.

I test drop a few 2014/2015 non comp before buying my (ex) 2015 F82 and only one comp (I think it was a 2018 model). Not sure if the one comp had issues, but it definitely felt "lazier" low down in the RPM range, compared to the non comp when driving normally. Driving it a bit harder and I could not really tell a difference. Obviously, if you tune them, they would be about the same across the rev range.
 

ArnyT

Member
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is this button an accurate indication that the car has full adaptive M susp? coz that according to the dealers call to bmw, is not listed as a feature/extra even though the button and function is there?
 

R!Yo

Staff - Social Media
Staff member
guys just saw a pure edition m4 at the most notorius dealers out there.. done some reading and seems like this is basically a comp pack without some of the creature comforts like.. pdc. reverse camera.. full leather seats.. electric seats.. harmon kardon.. anyone out there have experience with this pure edition? wonder if it will have adaptive m susp as std if its based on comp..
Howzit dude

So the Pure ed cars didn't come with that option at all (AFAIK).
You can check the first page of my showroom thread for more info. It's also on bmwblog.com if you do a quick search. The S.A Pure ed doesn't have the comp software either, so no burbles (the Aussie cars did though).

I've never driven a comp to tell the difference with that suspension option. And frankly, I didn't care much for it because my car wasn't going to do daily duty anyway and it was going to be lowered too.

However, I do think the comp is a "step up" in alot of aspects. So, if you have the means to, get the comp.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
I was surprised when I saw it might have Competition software since as far as I was aware (how it was marketed anyway at the time), the Pure Edition in SA was meant to reduce the entry point for the M4 to juuuust a hair under R1M (HERE) and hence it didn't have much in the way of options. Perfect if you were not in need of all those boxes ticked or to use as a base to mod anyway.

Suspension wise, if I think about how I drove my F10 and how I drive my F90 (granted these are M5s and not 3/4s), unless it is a very long trip, I hit my M buttons for presets as soon as they are up to temp and the suspension is in sport or sport plus on those. Even though there is a noticeable difference between settings, it is all relative and actually NOT hard or particularly stiff vs an 'actual' sportscar/track car type of a thing (like the GTS/DTM). You actually find yourself wanting that engagement (or else why bother with an M car of any size/kind). If you are going to drive it like that the 'base' suspension is going to be perfectly fine for you in that it is somewhere between Sport and Sport plus on the adaptive suspension (according to the internet anyway). Take anything you read on these things with a pinch of salt. Everyone's tolerances are different. What people in reviews describe as 'major differences' might seem minor to you in practice (or just in terms of your preferences). It is the nature of people - they will always be dissatisfied with something and yet when everything is great, they will find it boring/characterless/clinical.

Modding wise? IMHO If you had to drive a comp F10/F90 vs. my 'base' cars with the retrofitted Competition swaybars & ACS Springs (F10) or MP/KW HAS kit on it (F90), you would be hard pressed to tell the difference in terms of comfort.

If you can get a comp, then get a comp for sure, particularly since the price delta vs. a base car is not that huge and retrofitting those things (like the seats) is a frustrating and/or costly exercise.

If you can only find the base car, with no adaptive suspension in your price range/with the options you want, then think about how you will realistically be using it.

Ultimately the only solution here is to drive these yourself, back to back if possible. It is just too subjective. I can drive my carbon tub, very stiff and uncomfortable 4C long distances without complaint and I really would have to buy a GT3 RS because the GT3 is too civilised... You will have others who need a GT3 touring because their tolerances and preferences are different and the normal GT3 is too hard core for them. You also have people who base performance of a suspension on how 'hard' it is and some who think 'fitting coilies' is the height of suspension performance tuning... while others can give detailed feedback about exactly what they want to 'fix' on the car to work with their driving style on specific tracks etc.
 

R!Yo

Staff - Social Media
Staff member
Fully agree with Llew, its waaaaaay too subjective.
Yes, we can advise you from our own experiences, but you'll have to test them back to back (atleast) to see the diff for yourself (if any).

As an eg. If I listened to everyone's advice on buying an E63 M6 - probably wouldn't have. In the end, it was quite livable to be in.
It's all about your own preferences(y)
 
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