Does anyone know someone senior at BMW SA

tivoli786

Member
I have been having issues from day one I bought the car. Most of them have now been resolved but I still need to inform senior management what a crap customer service experience I have had over the two years. To date my windscreen has been refitted due to wind noises. Club Motors Randburg outsourced the fitment to some Charlies, who damaged both outer beadings by the windscreen and the one inside. I moaned and at first wanted to replace with one of their pool car beadings hell the car was not even 500kms at that point. They ordered new inner beading and I decided to live with outer beadings. Covers inside bonnet were not put back properly. I drove the car and once on the highway I smelt rubber do decided to pull on the side and have a look under the bonnet. I see the rubber beading is lying on the engine.

Later I noticed there was a surge in the cluster where all the neddles would jump when the ignition was switched on. The car was programmed by club motors about 5 times when I had enough. They finally asked me to bring in for a full diagnosis. They suggested the cluster needed to be replaced. I take a whole day off because I don't trust them and BMW tells me if I want to take to another dealer they will have to do a re diagnosis. I said hell no an I will be present when the cluster is replaced. I book the day off and when I get there they tell me the computer is offline due to load shedding causing some problems.

I ask where the workshop manager is as I have another problem that I would like to raise with him. This time the quarter glass beading rubbers were damaged and I would like to know when they will rectify as they put tape to hold beadings in place to rid suspension noise. He at first denies removing the beadings and then he takes of the beading and puts super glue on the one side to hold the rubber in place. He waits for it to dry but when he puts it back it looks shit and yesterday I see the rubber has come away from the beading.

They systems finally come online and the cluster is replaced. Everything looks fine. I get home when I notice the needles jump again. They suggest I meet with the regional manager of BMW SA. I agree. The appointment is setup for two Fridays that have passed at 11:00am. I get to the dealer where I bump into the workshop manager who asks me if I am still having issues with the cluster and I inform him yes. He suggests I pull the car into the workshop. I try to gain access into the workshop where I am refused point blank by the security guard. I tell him to speak to Mark the workshop manager. He goes and comes back and informs me that I must wait in reception and Mark will be with me shortly. It is now half an hour later and I made is clear to Jesse at BMW SA that I need to be back at work at 12. I am now tired of waiting so I go into the workshop only to find MArk and company standing around and joking and laughing. I give them another two minutes to finish their conversation. They ignore my presence so I interject and inform Mark that I have and appointment with the Regional Manager from BMW SA at 11:00am already. He informs me that the guy standing by his side is the regional manager. I asked the Regional Manager (Devan) if he is aware of our appointment at 11. He denies ever having an appointment with me. I pull out my phone recorder and ask him to go on record that he is not aware of the appointment. He asks if that is really necessary and walks away. (Very Childish)

I don't have time to deal with lighties so I drive away and call BMW directors line and guess what no one is there to help as everyone in BMW is either in a conf call or not available. I send an email to guy who arranged the meeting (Jesse) and ask what is going on, he say they will investigate and get back to me.

A whole week goes by then I receive a call this Monday asking me to bring through the car to Club Motors where they will pick it up to which I refuse and I don't want some snot cop driving my car to Midrand from Club Motors. Jesse then arranges for me to drop the car in Midrand at their offices and get their driver to take me to Club Motors to pick up the courtesy vehicle.

So my day started yesterday at 10:15 driving my car to Midrand from Roodepoort. I met with Jesse and one of his colleagues and gave them of list of snags that needed to be addressed. We walk around the car and I show them all the issues. They take the list and off I go with the driver to Club Motors to collect the courtesy car. I get there the car is ready but guess what there is no insurance on the vehicle. I refuse to take the vehicle. I end up sitting till 14:30 when I had enough and ask them to drive me back to work if I still have a job.

I then call again to find out what arrangements have been made in terms of a courtesy car where I am informed BMW on Call will get a rental for me. I am told I will be in the vehicle by 16:30. I get a call from BMW on call after speaking to Garth, then James, then Wayne informing me road rangers will collect me from work and take me to Avis on ontdekkers road. 16:00 comes and no one is here to pick me up. I get a call from Andries informing me he is stuck in traffic and it is very unlikely that he will be able to get me to Avis in time before they close.

I call BMW on call again with very little success to tell them what the guy from Road Rangers just told me. They then get techical and start asking me a million questions and finally they say according to the system road rangers is despatched after telling them that the guy can't make it they don't listen.

About half and hour later Andries calls me and say he is outside the building. I get to his car and now we are off to Rivonia branch as the Roodepoort branch is closed.
 
I will send you a pm, however I learned that with BMWSA, you get better results if you spam there Facebook updates with just how unsatisfied you are.
 

tivoli786

Member
Sabretooth tiger said:
I will send you a pm, however I learned that with BMWSA, you get better results if you spam there Facebook updates with just how unsatisfied you are.

I have done that that is why they have taken the car to Midrand but it is very strange that only customer service gets involved as the case is open for too long.
 
tivoli786 said:
Sabretooth tiger said:
I will send you a pm, however I learned that with BMWSA, you get better results if you spam there Facebook updates with just how unsatisfied you are.

I have done that that is why they have taken the car to Midrand but it is very strange that only customer service gets involved as the case is open for too long.

Hence my decision, that I will NOT buy another BMW again
 

tivoli786

Member
lol I have voice recordings of conversation with them I think I am going to upload on drop box. I have given them one last chance to resolve otherwise I am going with emails and voice recording to talk 702 and the media.
 

MikeR

Well-known member
Sabretooth tiger said:
tivoli786 said:
Sabretooth tiger said:
I will send you a pm, however I learned that with BMWSA, you get better results if you spam there Facebook updates with just how unsatisfied you are.

I have done that that is why they have taken the car to Midrand but it is very strange that only customer service gets involved as the case is open for too long.

Hence my decision, that I will NOT buy another BMW again
:withStu: I feel the same.
 

tivoli786

Member
Nemo said:
Dealing with Club Motors is a nightmare, goodluck buddy, :thumbdo:

No longer dealing with them they swapped some stuff in my car and I don't want to deal with them ever.
 

Nemo

///Member
tivoli786 said:
Nemo said:
Dealing with Club Motors is a nightmare, goodluck buddy, :thumbdo:

No longer dealing with them they swapped some stuff in my car and I don't want to deal with them ever.

I feel your pain bud, I now deal with JSN and they have been a pleasure bud.
Club motors drove me to total anger, charges being pressed against me and everything....A bunch of useless people who know nothing about their product
 

tivoli786

Member
Nemo said:
tivoli786 said:
Nemo said:
Dealing with Club Motors is a nightmare, goodluck buddy, :thumbdo:

No longer dealing with them they swapped some stuff in my car and I don't want to deal with them ever.

I feel your pain bud, I now deal with JSN and they have been a pleasure bud.
Club motors drove me to total anger, charges being pressed against me and everything....A bunch of useless people who know nothing about their product

I know the feeling, Mark started screaming and shouting at me trying to get a reaction from me. I told myself it is not worth it and walked out.
 

Nemo

///Member
Next time you go there bud, give me a call and I will come through with you.

I know how to put them in their place.
 

tivoli786

Member
I blame Sandton Auto for selling a freakin dud / Monday car. This is the dealer where the vehicle was purchased. Club Motors was convenient to take to as I work in Roodepoort. I have gotten serious blood pressure problems and anxiety attacks with dealing with them on few occasions.

I posted on BMW Germany's website and it seems like they are going to do something as I have been asked for the whole story and vehicle details.
 

Nastaliq

Well-known member
tivoli786 said:
lol I have voice recordings of conversation with them I think I am going to upload on drop box. I have given them one last chance to resolve otherwise I am going with emails and voice recording to talk 702 and the media.

You playing marbles brother.
You giving them too many chances, it should already be in the media and talk 702, how many last chances are you giving?

Nail them.
 

Chavoos

Active member
Sorry man. This service sucks ! Complain everywhere . Get hold of the top bmw oke in SA at bmw , googled , It seems to be Bodo Donauer, Managing Director of BMW ... Get his email


Try Hello Peter as well


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Chavoos said:
Sorry man. This service sucks ! Complain everywhere . Get hold of the top bmw oke in SA at bmw , googled , It seems to be Bodo Donauer, Managing Director of BMW ... Get his email


Try Hello Peter as well


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BMWSA does not respond to Hello Peter.

I pm'd him the MD's e-mail address, he is however just as useless, mailed him twice when I had a issue, and got read replies but nothing. Only after I copied and pasted my frustration on each and every single pic or thing they posted on FB, and resorted to post on BMW Germany's FB did I get a reaction.

Reality is BMWSA makes enough sales and could not give a rats ass about customers.
 

tivoli786

Member
Sabretooth tiger said:
Chavoos said:
Sorry man. This service sucks ! Complain everywhere . Get hold of the top bmw oke in SA at bmw , googled , It seems to be Bodo Donauer, Managing Director of BMW ... Get his email


Try Hello Peter as well


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BMWSA does not respond to Hello Peter.

I pm'd him the MD's e-mail address, he is however just as useless, mailed him twice when I had a issue, and got read replies but nothing. Only after I copied and pasted my frustration on each and every single pic or thing they posted on FB, and resorted to post on BMW Germany's FB did I get a reaction.

Reality is BMWSA makes enough sales and could not give a rats ass about customers.

Sabretooth 100% on the button you get an automated response from hellopeter informing you that BMW does not respond. I see the German's have taken me seriously asked for VIN number and what exactly transpired. Got an update last night that the matter is being routed to the right department, let's see what happens.

On a side note I am told by BMW SA that Club Motors Randburg is being taken to task for not having insurance on their courtesy vehicle a whole day of mine wasted.

Latest news I have a courtesy car now from BMW to keep me quiet lol they have given me a 335i, best part you wanna know why I was right from day one that they sold me a dud seems like the motor has to be replaced at a tune of R200 000 they are trying to convince me to take the 335 but I must pay difference lol and this is their pool car. It's like taking a loose women and asking for top money haha.

They so scared to put it in email that the manager drove the car to Avis and drop off and casually tells me I have the 335 for as long as it takes to sort out my car and I must not worry.:RedNo: owe and they love my tyres as none of their cars has the same road holding BTW I am using Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 Runflats, the nerve seems everyone is having a joyride at my expense.
 
Glad you at least getting somewhere. Its a pity one has to go to such lengths to get decent service, as the products BMW has on offer is great.
 
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