ADSL Vs 56k modem, this is just plain wrong!

rick540

///Member
I came home today to find my 4 meg ADSL line dead.

So no problem, fired up the spare 56K modem and my spare dial up connection.

Browse BMWfanatics, and get a surprise, this stupid 56K modem connection is far more responsive then my 4Mb ADSL, I'm shooting through pages local and overseas at twice my usual speed.

WTF?

WTF?

What exactly is Telkon dishing up as so called ADSL?

Now I'm really thinking, we are being shafted here in SA
 

moranor@axis

///Member
Official Advertiser
im leaving Telscum 1st chance i get i dont care if they drop prices and are cheaper than the competition (LOL what are the chances of that?) i will never go back to them and cant wait for decent competition...
 

jaunef

New member
I think the problem is that there is so many people using adsl and so little still using the 56k. The adsl is getting clogged and the 56k lines hav no one on them???
 

moranor@axis

///Member
Official Advertiser
im sure they have the same problem all over the world yet im sure their adsl is faster than 56k? what i really take offence to is the ridiculous amount we pay for capped adsl...
i will spit on the grave of telscum if i ever get a chance
 

Truvalu

New member
we all are and have been robbed (spell rap$d) so many times, it doesn't even hurt any more!!

WTF with how many users are online?
The "capped" rip-off is a major abuse of our gullability.

The only feeling is this total inability of being able to have any choice anyway and just feeling hoplessly screwed over... and over... and over... and...
 

clutchplate

///Member
well, I think the reason is 56K runs in the same class as gold class diginet clients, I believe it has a 1:1 contention ratio. unlike adsl ..

if you're on a new exchange and your signal levels are high, you will be able to get 115K connection with compression on your dial-up, which helps allot.
 

freerider

Honorary ///Member
clutchy outposted me, i was going to say the problem is the contention ratio of 20 thousand to 1
 

Sankekur

///Member
The telecomms industry like so many other in SA is running totally mad charging for everything and anything because there is no regulation, it doesn't make sense that telkom should be charging for something or that we should be paying for something that in effect costs them nothing as it is in no way limited, except arteficially (by telkom) so that they can force people to pay for the same thing twice.
Next government will probably instate air tax :hammerhead:

My last experience with dial-up was that I couldn't get more than 1.3kbps transfer which is insane, but that was years ago, don't even have a dail-up modem anymore.
 

netercol

New member
im leaving Telscum 1st chance i get i dont care if they drop prices and are cheaper than the competition (LOL what are the chances of that?) i will never go back to them and cant wait for decent competition...

bad news buddy, competition has been and gone already :) what i mean is, neotel wants to stop bothering with subscribers,(read wireless broadband, home telephony) and rather focus on broadband backbone since this is where the real money is, and not in home subsribers, as they are now finding out... luckily it seems goverment will force them to provide home subscriber services, since it is part of their licence agreement.

telkom will not have proper competition in the forseeable future, trust me (goverment cash cow)

just some 3rd person insider info :dunno:
 

clutchplate

///Member
yes, netercol is right... and its not as if neotel was mind blowingly awesome .. ok, I must admit, the only thing from neotel that actually worked properly for me is their fiber optic voip trunks, was nice and fast and stable. The internet and the rest was CRAP... also, had WEEKS of issues with their T.38 protocol, and they didn't have anyone in technical smart enough to figure it out... was kinda dis-apointing for such a "large" corporation... neways .. neotel home is just a flop, not even going there..

lol, but still, 56K.... speaking a dead language dude..

:excited: telkom is not so bad, just a little corrupt like the rest of our country :)
 

Clownshoe

Active member
I have been on iBurst for several years now and despite being in an almost signal dead area and having to get roof antennae its been stable and continous. I got it mainly because I hate telscum and after a 5 year dispute in which i ended up getting blacklisted and having to pay almost 10 years of interest and lawyers letters I vowed never to have anything to do with them ever again.

But I hear iBurst is on the rocks with some directors leaving and other stuff.

Neotel I also hear are trying to rid themselves of the home market. They also have big dead spots due to signals cancelling each other out and reflection issues. Wrong technology and they are stuck with it.
 

moranor@axis

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Official Advertiser
i heard the other day (im not sure if its true) that neotel is laying lines for mtn and vodacom with thier own.
if this is true then there may be some hope (very slim)
 

Sankekur

///Member
I wouldn't bet on hope, as long as the government does nothing, nothing will change.
I was in kenya a bit more than a year ago, and some of their telecomms stuff is also done by telkom and vodacom (under the name safaricom) yet the prices are lower, how is that possible?
 

netercol

New member
simple, we don't have a government, its all just smoke and mirrors.

lol, aint that the truth, and when the smoke clears, you find they have taken all your money :hammerhead:
 

badaz87

Member
lokl! www.cybersmart.co.za - have a 15Gb package via them for R299-00 INCLUSIVE of 384Kbps line rental. I WOULD NEVER switch to Telkom, using it at Dad's office... connection is down more often than it is up...
 

S///Mon

Active member
Working for an ISP has its advantages, I dont pay for my 4mb line, I dont pay for my 100gig per month...
And when I need support, it get handled and sorted with in a matter of minutes. :)

clutchy and freerider both outposted me, contention ratio of 20 thousand to 1 would be the most likely cause. *nods*

@clownshoe - Iburst is basically dead, start looking for a back up bud.

as for cybersmart, maybe Im just being a bias prick, but their service and after sales support is mega K@K!
 

badaz87

Member
Lokl! I used to work there... The service problems come from understaffing, coz the Boss is a Chep Jewish Pr!ck! So glad I left, and dragged them to the CCMA... They forced them to employ more staff and pay better salaries...
 
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