320d TURBO

MicB

New member
Morning Everybody :)
I drive an E46 320d and I love it very much best car I have ever had!!
But she is a bit sick and I need some advice the turbo started to blow oil out but she was still going good but I had a new turbo put in and now she is boosting only at 4000 RPM does anybody know what I can do to fix this??? Please ...
 

Nastaliq

Well-known member
Other more knowledgeable guys on here, would know better, but I scheme you have to have the cars ECU reprogrammed/tuned to the original settings. Its possible that when the new turbo was fitted, the ECU map was "effed" up and it needs to be reset.

Guys (experts) what say?
 

netercol

New member
hiya,

i can offhand think of 3 possible causes for those symptoms, firstly the e46 320d has two differant turbo's between the two engine types (vp44 pump/common rail) , you might have the wrong turbo on? if you fit the later turbo to the earlier motor you will get that kind of lag..

secondly if its a recon turbo fitted, the vnt calibration might be out.. (the little ajustable arm opening the vanes.. has to be exactly set to a spesific stroke vs. vacuum)

lastly, it might be a simple vacuum leak caused by dissasembly/refitting somewhere.. (in the vacuum lines feeding the actuator)
 

Nastaliq

Well-known member
You see MicB,

On here, you get advice like this for "mahala".

And you can save alot of time and money, if you "consult" with the experts on here!

Hell, we even have a Coisman on here that can help with police/legal/traffic dept related issues.

BMWFanatics is a one stop shop!

:clap:
 

MicB

New member
Thanks guys will try that tonight I should have joined long time ago. like one big family 
 

MicB

New member
Hi
Ok checked all the pipes no leaks. The turbo I had on there before that was taken off and all the seals were replaced and shaft cleaned and balanced and put back the guys that did it say they did not adjust anything so the vent calibration is right I have unplugged the battery and left it off over night to reset the cpu but it still does the same thing. I don’t want to take my car to BMW for them to check it. Does anybody know of anyone with a computer that can diagnose the problem for me??
 

Nastaliq

Well-known member
I think Rick540 has a computer that you can ask to diagnose.

Is it giving you an error on the dash?

Or is the only problem you notice that is the late boosting?

Also, as an aside, what diesel are you using?
 

MicB

New member
Hi

No error on the dash just the late boosting what gets me is she was running ok befor i got the turbo taken off everything was taken off very nicly and every nut and bolt was put back were it came out . Diesel iam useing is sasol or BP but i try to keep to the Sasol low sulphur diesel. The funny thing is i can drive the car with the Vacuum pipe off the turbo still late boosting but not that bad and the power is good too but not for long
 

Nastaliq

Well-known member
I scheme your best bet is to take it to one of the okes on here that have a computer to diagnose what the hell the turbo is trying to do, boosting at 4000 revs. :dunno:
 

netercol

New member
The funny thing is i can drive the car with the Vacuum pipe off the turbo still late boosting but not that bad and the power is good too but not for long

ah ok, this does not sound good.. it sounds like the vanes are not moving at all.

think of it like this :

the idea behind the vnt is that the ecu controls the turbo via a actuator that varies the vacuum to the vnt controller, pulling the arm in or out, which changes the angle of the vanes.
when the vanes are closed, the turbo acts like a "small" turbo, spinning up quickly , boost from about 1200rpm.. as rpm climbs the ecu opens the vanes thus the turbo acts like a "bigger" turbo causing less backpressure.

if you say that it makes no differance if the vacuum is connected or not, it can only mean that the vanes are always in the full open condition , because this is the fail-safe condition. thus the fault could be :

no vacuum reaching the actuator, actuator itself bust, wiring to actuator bust, or the vanes are stuck..

try moving the controller arm by hand, it is spring loaded but it can be moved. if it cant be moved they might have screwed up with reassembly. pull the vacuum pipe going to the arm controller off and feel for vacuum with the motor running.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AL72&mospid=47634&btnr=11_2230&hg=11&fg=45

if you look at the pic, number 1 is the actuator im talking about, and the pipe number 12 leads to the canister which controls the vnt arm.

lastly it might still be a good idea to check for error codes, it might be something totaly unrelated thats bust, forcing the ecu into limp mode, where the ecu will also not allow the turbo to boost..

hope this helps :dunno:
 

clutchplate

///Member
spoke to MicB on the phone last night, he went to fiddle with the car, it seems you were on the money netercol, the car opens the actuator all the way when he turns it on .. so it seems to be going into fail safe mode ....

now he just needs someone to read codes ...
 

netercol

New member
hehe , glad if any of my ramblings actually helped, i find it quite fun to try and diagnose a problem remotely.. although its obviously a hit and miss affair sometimes :)
 

MicB

New member
Hi Netercol
Thanks for all the help
I can move the controller arm by hand that’s ok and it moves easily if I connect all the vacuum pipes and start the car, with my hand on the controller arm you can feel it move all the way open and it stays there it does not close again if I pull a vacuum pipe off it closers all the way. If it is doing this can there still be a problem with the vanes?
Is it right in saying that the actuator is meant to control the amount of suction that the wastgate is meant to get and if the car is idling then it should be closed till you start driving it?
Iam going to get the codes read tomorrow hopefully then we can see what’s wrong with her I’ll let you guys know what ever I find out 
 

MicB

New member
Hi guys
So got my codes read and it turns out to be the PRESSURE CONVERTER that’s giving the problem
Now I just need to find one. BMW is asking R2000.00 for a piece of plastic really funny. Does anybody know if there is a pirate part for this or bosch part or something???
 

Nastaliq

Well-known member
Scrapyard.

If its just plastic, go there and get it for R50 bucks, the okes will just think, aaaah, its plastic, "how much you want to pay"

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