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Importing BMW's from the UK
05-11-2019, 03:42 PM,
#1
Importing BMW's from the UK
i'm part of quite a few UK groups , and they have some very nice examples selling for 1900-3500 sterling...thats R30 - R55 000

was thinking of maybe importing 1 or 2 later next year

where would i start to get it imported or is there somebody specialising in these types of thing...i know Rospa does the JAP imports , but not sure how it differs from UK in terms of laws an legislation

how much could the import duty be ? Fencelook
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05-11-2019, 03:52 PM,
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i had an imported RS Turbo & friend brought in a 4X4 safcos ..both were owned over there for 2 years before they could be brought in..lots & lots of paper work and lots and lots of tax..the government doesnt want us to import cars like other countries and it would "correct" our crazy prices...your best bet is to go the "collectors item" angle. So you have to make a case that the car is a collectors item etc.

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05-11-2019, 04:29 PM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
From what I've read, it is very expensive once you add the additional charges and taxes, its meant to regulate the ZA car market.

Some information comes up if you use the search function.

https://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=90718&highlight=import+car+rs+turbo

https://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=90155

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06-11-2019, 06:21 AM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
I've imported two cars from the UK in 2007 and another in 2013. The process has not chaged. It's not expensive either. It cost me R2000 SA documentation, £ 700 shipping, R5 000 clearing costs at customs, and a few bob miscellaneous expenses.
Your costs could rise stratospherically if you are dealing with a rogue clearing agent in SA who could charge you all sorts for things you really can avoid paying for. The clearing system is complicated and open to abuse. So choose your agent wisely. Make sure you agree a fee before the car leaves the UK.
There's a lot of paperwork ad admin processes, but if you have all your papers in order, it's just a tick box exercises.
I can take you through the process if nobody else has done this for you because I know it very well.
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06-11-2019, 07:01 AM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
what kind of cars did you import?
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06-11-2019, 08:35 AM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
it was about 50% the value of the car that was paid in taxes.

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06-11-2019, 11:28 AM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
(06-11-2019, 06:21 AM)Beemerbro Wrote: I've imported two cars from the UK in 2007 and another in 2013. The process has not chaged. It's not expensive either. It cost me R2000 SA documentation, £ 700 shipping, R5 000 clearing costs at customs, and a few bob miscellaneous expenses.
Your costs could rise stratospherically if you are dealing with a rogue clearing agent in SA who could charge you all sorts for things you really can avoid paying for. The clearing system is complicated and open to abuse. So choose your agent wisely. Make sure you agree a fee before the car leaves the UK.
There's a lot of paperwork ad admin processes, but if you have all your papers in order, it's just a tick box exercises.
I can take you through the process if nobody else has done this for you because I know it very well.

Some more details about the process, type of car etc...?
From everything Ive read previously, you needed to own the car in the other country for 2 years in order to bring it SA. Not sure if thats just for if you working overseas etc.
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06-11-2019, 11:44 AM,
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(06-11-2019, 11:28 AM)rodga Wrote:
(06-11-2019, 06:21 AM)Beemerbro Wrote: I've imported two cars from the UK in 2007 and another in 2013. The process has not chaged. It's not expensive either. It cost me R2000 SA documentation, £ 700 shipping, R5 000 clearing costs at customs, and a few bob miscellaneous expenses.
Your costs could rise stratospherically if you are dealing with a rogue clearing agent in SA who could charge you all sorts for things you really can avoid paying for. The clearing system is complicated and open to abuse. So choose your agent wisely. Make sure you agree a fee before the car leaves the UK.
There's a lot of paperwork ad admin processes, but if you have all your papers in order, it's just a tick box exercises.
I can take you through the process if nobody else has done this for you because I know it very well.

Some more details about the process, type of car etc...?
From everything Ive read previously, you needed to own the car in the other country for 2 years in order to bring it SA. Not sure if thats just for if you working overseas etc.
I think the other route is, you can import a car/model that was never sold in SA.

So I think imagine e46 330ci non-convertible or 330i wagon ect.

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06-11-2019, 11:51 AM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
(06-11-2019, 11:44 AM)Tinuva Wrote:
(06-11-2019, 11:28 AM)rodga Wrote:
(06-11-2019, 06:21 AM)Beemerbro Wrote: I've imported two cars from the UK in 2007 and another in 2013. The process has not chaged. It's not expensive either. It cost me R2000 SA documentation, £ 700 shipping, R5 000 clearing costs at customs, and a few bob miscellaneous expenses.
Your costs could rise stratospherically if you are dealing with a rogue clearing agent in SA who could charge you all sorts for things you really can avoid paying for. The clearing system is complicated and open to abuse. So choose your agent wisely. Make sure you agree a fee before the car leaves the UK.
There's a lot of paperwork ad admin processes, but if you have all your papers in order, it's just a tick box exercises.
I can take you through the process if nobody else has done this for you because I know it very well.

Some more details about the process, type of car etc...?
From everything Ive read previously, you needed to own the car in the other country for 2 years in order to bring it SA. Not sure if thats just for if you working overseas etc.
I think the other route is, you can import a car/model that was never sold in SA.

So I think imagine e46 330ci non-convertible or 330i wagon ect.
Might be grey area, but it depends on if they see it as a separate model or a derivative of that model. For instance, we can e46 tourings locally, but we cant get e61 tourings.
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06-11-2019, 12:06 PM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
to my knowledge no...has to be collectors car.

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06-11-2019, 02:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-11-2019, 02:14 PM by Tinuva.)
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
(06-11-2019, 12:06 PM)individj Wrote: to my knowledge no...has to be collectors car.
This guy imported a 330ci non-convertible just fine? https://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=90155

nvm I see he is in botswana.

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06-11-2019, 02:15 PM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
read that thread...he lived in UK and he is in on Botswana Plates...you can obviously do that it you want.

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06-11-2019, 04:31 PM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
thanks for the feedback Chef

@beemerbro i will get in touch closer to the time , i'm looking at getting a ci
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06-11-2019, 05:17 PM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
please keep us updated about this. I don't want to sound negative but i cannot see this working...always wanted a E30 proper droptop...the friend with the cossie moved to the UK specifically so that he can bring back a Cossie after 2 years of ownership there.

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06-11-2019, 05:21 PM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
Moved to the UK for 2 years so you can bring back a car...thats madness.
I was there for 3 weeks over their summer time, I highly doubt I will survive 2 years.

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06-11-2019, 05:34 PM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
when i say they're car crazy...its an understatement...he had a nice job there but the whole mission was to make money and bring back the car and parts.

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06-11-2019, 07:04 PM,
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OP, it is better to listen to someone who has actually imported cars. In this case @Beemerbro is the right person to seek advice from. He has done this before and willing to guide you through the process Fencelook
Don't go looking for a job in the UK to stay 2 years just to import a car Rofl

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07-11-2019, 06:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-11-2019, 06:23 AM by Beemerbro.)
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
In 2007 I imported a Vauxhall Astra, and in 2013 I imported the car you see in my profile pic- BMW E46 330Ci

The process was the same both times, and I just checked again and i see it hasn't changed
You need to provide proof that the car was registered in your name in the UK for at least one year.
Only one car per family can be imported
Your best route to avoiding taxes is to apply as a returning resident.
You must apply for an EEC compliance certificate that shows the car complies with NRCS requirements. The car manufacturer will do this for you for a fee.
You will have to apply for an import permit from ITAC
Then a letter of authority from the NRCS..used to be SABS
All this takes about 4 weeks roughly and is all online. You must have a SA address cos the docs are sent there by courier

Once you have these then you can ship the car. But before you do make sure you've arranged to have a clearing agent in SA who will be ready to receive the car. I had one that has a shipping company he works with in the UK so its a seemless process. Make sure you have valued the car here first and have proof of a valuation to determine your VAT liability at SARS in SA.

When shipping, specify ro ro shipment as its called- roll on roll off

The journey is roughly 3-4 weeks to Durban. I'm not sure abt other ports.

Once in SA the process keeps you on your toes even more

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@Tinuva
You can import any car even if it was not a model that SA produced, as long as it is a right hand drive and in the case of UK cars, if an EEC certificate is supplied showing it has both miles and km calibrated speedometer.

A close friend of mine imported BMW E46 M3 that was a replica of similar M3s in SA so

I don't think there is an age limit either on the imported car, as long as it meets NRCS standards
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07-11-2019, 08:19 AM,
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RE: Importing BMW's from the UK
Lefoba some of us are really passionate about cars and for him to achieve his dream..that was the only way...i dont laugh at him i respect him...and he had a great job at BAT. This was my imported RS
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08-11-2019, 04:03 AM,
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Importing BMW's from the UK
I was in Amsterdam not too long ago and got to see the current 5 series touring (wagon) in person and boy oh boy was that so beautiful. I am wagon crazy. I would be tempted to import one myself but then eish only to drive it on Sundays and away from taxi drivers would be disappointing.

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