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Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
16-04-2019, 09:54 AM
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Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
Hi Guys

Just wondering how you guys deal with "agents only" parts as some of these prices are absolutely mind blowing!?

You may of may not have seen this before. But all the same - prices when out of motor plan make an M3 a really unattractive used purchase.

Video of out of plan BMW M3

Let me know what you do in situation like this - break down and cry?
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16-04-2019, 10:17 AM
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Carbon ceramic disks seldom need to be replaced.
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16-04-2019, 10:23 AM
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Realistic or scare tactic from warrantyextender.co.za?

Either way that’s a little rough.


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16-04-2019, 10:30 AM
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
You pay big money for the Carbon brakes so you dont have to replace the discs. BlueCry
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16-04-2019, 10:42 AM
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(16-04-2019 10:30 AM)johndoe Wrote:  You pay big money for the Carbon brakes so you dont have to replace the discs. BlueCry

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16-04-2019, 11:57 AM (This post was last modified: 16-04-2019 12:01 PM by MR_Y.)
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
(16-04-2019 09:54 AM)SoupCan Wrote:  Hi Guys

Just wondering how you guys deal with "agents only" parts as some of these prices are absolutely mind blowing!?

You may of may not have seen this before. But all the same - prices when out of motor plan make an M3 a really unattractive used purchase.

Video of out of plan BMW M3

Let me know what you do in situation like this - break down and cry?

I paid R9k to Mazda for a 60,000km service (no brakes, just service, battery and wiper blades) on my CX5 (https://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread...8&page=2).

All dealers charge high prices for parts and labour.

The more premium the brand, the higher the charge per hour and for parts.

Aftermarket RMI workshop is the best way to go after Plan, but you need to check if your extended warranty will be honoured - that is my bind.

(16-04-2019 10:17 AM)yush1 Wrote:  Carbon ceramic disks seldom need to be replaced.

The original owner who specced carbon ceramic brakes would have molested it at every chance. So, owner 2 or 3 would end up with the repair bill after plan....

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16-04-2019, 12:30 PM
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
(16-04-2019 10:17 AM)yush1 Wrote:  Carbon ceramic disks seldom need to be replaced.

Not necessarily true. Carbon Brakes diminish from heat. The more heat they get the more they wear. So if the guy tracked his car, they could be near finished.

They would last the average Joe though that drives to work and back only.
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16-04-2019, 01:20 PM
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
(16-04-2019 12:30 PM)ChrisPy Wrote:  
(16-04-2019 10:17 AM)yush1 Wrote:  Carbon ceramic disks seldom need to be replaced.

Not necessarily true. Carbon Brakes diminish from heat. The more heat they get the more they wear. So if the guy tracked his car, they could be near finished.

They would last the average Joe though that drives to work and back only.


Not quite, but yes. These are Carbon Ceramic brakes, not Carbon Carbon. Ceramic ones do wear just like good old steel ones, they are just better at heat dissipation.

IE CC brakes on a road car is just pointless, even on track days they are really not worth the colossal cost.
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16-04-2019, 02:13 PM
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Is it an option to replace the carbon ceramics with conventional steel discs and pads?

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16-04-2019, 02:24 PM
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
yeah, dont believe everything on that youtube video... i searched for those same spares on my favourite BMW spares site ECStuning and found the OEM parts quite easily, and much cheaper:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-...112284970/

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-...4805-806~/

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-...312284785/
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16-04-2019, 02:30 PM (This post was last modified: 16-04-2019 02:34 PM by Danny@DSCmotorsport.)
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
once you convert the dollars to rand, add shipping and add customs when it lands here,it doesnt always work out cheaper.
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16-04-2019, 02:36 PM (This post was last modified: 16-04-2019 02:37 PM by kilotango.)
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(16-04-2019 02:30 PM)Danny@DSCmotorsport Wrote:  once you convert the dollars to rand, add shipping and add customs when it lands here they will be more expensive on the parts.

if you see in the video they reckon the local agents charge R96k per disc (thats about USD$6.8k each). online they are selling both front discs as a kit for $7.7k.

duty+vat + shipping would still be cheaper in this case.
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16-04-2019, 02:40 PM
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(16-04-2019 02:36 PM)kilotango Wrote:  
(16-04-2019 02:30 PM)Danny@DSCmotorsport Wrote:  once you convert the dollars to rand, add shipping and add customs when it lands here they will be more expensive on the parts.

if you see in the video they reckon the local agents charge R96k per disc (thats about USD$6.8k each). online they are selling both front discs as a kit for $7.7k.

duty+vat + shipping would still be cheaper in this case.

Regardless, the cost is still hugely expensive in relation to the value of M3 out of motor plan
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16-04-2019, 02:42 PM
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(16-04-2019 02:40 PM)cRed001 Wrote:  
(16-04-2019 02:36 PM)kilotango Wrote:  
(16-04-2019 02:30 PM)Danny@DSCmotorsport Wrote:  once you convert the dollars to rand, add shipping and add customs when it lands here they will be more expensive on the parts.

if you see in the video they reckon the local agents charge R96k per disc (thats about USD$6.8k each). online they are selling both front discs as a kit for $7.7k.

duty+vat + shipping would still be cheaper in this case.

Regardless, the cost is still hugely expensive in relation to the value of M3 out of motor plan

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16-04-2019, 03:09 PM
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
We not even talking about tyres Biglol
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16-04-2019, 03:52 PM
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(16-04-2019 02:13 PM)gavsadler Wrote:  Is it an option to replace the carbon ceramics with conventional steel discs and pads?

Im sure it is indeed possible......

BUT..........

I can see the thread on BMWf now.........



Title: "Newbie - M3 buying advise?"

"HI guyyyyysssssssssss" - Insert Trevor Noah voice here

"Buying an M3!!!!!!! OMG LOL........heres the VIN.......can someone....like......check it out????????"

First response:

"Drop the price by 2/3rds.......it has standard instead of CC discs.....car is worthless" Cartel
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16-04-2019, 06:53 PM
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(16-04-2019 01:20 PM)Rotinaj Wrote:  IE CC brakes on a road car is just pointless, even on track days they are really not worth the colossal cost.

Yes they are

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17-04-2019, 06:01 AM
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omg waitingomg waitingThumbdown
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17-04-2019, 06:31 AM
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Things like brakes will inevitably become a significant % of the current value of any performance car. Again people are just dumb if they think items like clutches and brakes will drop in price in line with the depreciation of their car as this is not some new shocking news limited just to BMWs or M cars.

Are CCB worth it? NO. I would spec them on a supercar or sportscar that wont see 100000km and might live 50% of the time on the track. For a road car they are noisy and no better in normal use. Set of M5 normal discs and pads for reference is 20k ex VAT front and 11.5k ex VAT rear under plan. I tend to beleive the pricing per disc is way inflated as the carbon ceramic retrofit kit for the car is something like 180k which includes 4 calipers, pads, 4 bigger discs than the ones supposedly 90k+ each, lines, new ABS unit and a new master cylinder if memory serves.

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17-04-2019, 01:13 PM
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RE: Out of Motorplan M3 prices - staggering
Thanks for the input guys - I do think those are legitimate prices quoted as the voice in the video is from a local fitment center and he sounds pretty astounded himself with the agents only costs. Understandably the M3 is a performance car, and the ceramics are the crazy expensive items.

Anything other wear and tear parts in the M3/M5 that are horrifically expensive - such as clutch, spark plugs etc?
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