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135i Problematic ?
07-08-2017, 11:50 AM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2017 11:51 AM by Captain_Stealth.)
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135i Problematic ?
Hi peeps

Looking at getting a daily I really love the 135i. But it would have to be out of motorplan.

Everywhere I have been reading its been doom and gloom with stuff breaking.

Whats your guys opinion on getting a 135i 2008-11

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07-08-2017, 11:56 AM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
IMO
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Just compensate for turbo rebuild and water pump replacement on your purchase price.

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07-08-2017, 12:03 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
and carbon cleanning...

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07-08-2017, 12:15 PM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2017 12:18 PM by individj.)
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
i really wanted 1 but decided against it because of maintenance.

i think i would get 1 as a toy i used for racing...tarted up & fast as hell...but put on like 2000km a year or something...i would be very nervous

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07-08-2017, 12:28 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
Having faced this exact decision I decided not to. The cost of a 135i vs the specialness makes it a bit of a moot point. Rather dump your cash into an M3 E46 or a Z4M, it'll cost the same, be similarly fast and be 100x more special and rare.

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07-08-2017, 12:37 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
I use mine as a daily, the only problem is fuel consumption but I've accepted that already haha I've done quite abit of maintenance on it but nothing serious, whatever I done I already knew would need to be done on the car.

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07-08-2017, 12:44 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
a 35i modded is gna be faster than a E46 M at the coast but i agree with you 88...dont even think about Jozi! If you are prepared for paying for certain things like Mo said then its cool

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07-08-2017, 12:53 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
You are not asking about an M, or is it an option for you? I wouldn't want to daily a car like the E46m, although very possible to do so. I would say they fall in the special category and not the daily category.

I daily my 135i, it has been reliable and I would probably only swop it out for an E46M and a daily. There are big repair bills if things like the turbos give up, so have a repair budget available. If you are concerned about these things then I think maybe opt for the N55 which has slightly fewer issues...but personally, I don't think 1 turbo is as cool as 2 Rollsmile

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07-08-2017, 01:33 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
Ok thanks guys, much appreciated.

I plan on keeping the car stock, so does anyone have experience with a hollard warenties package ?

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07-08-2017, 01:43 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
(07-08-2017 12:53 PM)Avi135 Wrote:  You are not asking about an M, or is it an option for you? I wouldn't want to daily a car like the E46m, although very possible to do so. I would say they fall in the special category and not the daily category.

I daily my 135i, it has been reliable and I would probably only swop it out for an E46M and a daily. There are big repair bills if things like the turbos give up, so have a repair budget available. If you are concerned about these things then I think maybe opt for the N55 which has slightly fewer issues...but personally, I don't think 1 turbo is as cool as 2 Rollsmile

I guess in my context it was an n54 135i, a Z4 3.0si or a Z4M.

I probably went for the least practical of the lot in the Z4M, but would do so again.

Not sure what else OP is looking at - hence why my answer is a bit scatter-gun...

But ja, the 135i is definitely very quick (even bone stock, like the one I drove) it shifts well, has great low down torque and is a pretty car. But it never gave *me* a special feeling, just the feel of a rapid, well built car.

I still think they're nice, and that if you are willing to drop plenty of cash to turn it into a 1M clone it could be spectacular, but at the end of the day it just looks a bit too much like ever 120d with an msport kit, I suppose.

Either way, OP, I'm sure if you take the car for a drive you'll have a better idea - but as guys have said, the turbos and so on are big ticket repair items (I think another user is having his z4 35i turbos redone - maybe PM him for a rundown of costs and so on) and typically these aftermarket motorplans only cover a fraction of the costs you'll be facing if the turbos do go bellyup (to the extent that it can become hard to justify the initial investment).


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07-08-2017, 02:09 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
Pretty much agree with what everyone else above is saying.
I sold my 335i (n54), but will never sell the e46 M3.
x35's cost me more to maintain than the m3, but I did mod the x35.
Tiny mod's to x35's and its a lot faster than e46 m3 (well in a straight line at least). Turbo cars are easier dailies as they have Nm from so low down.
x35's can be very expensive out of plan, but I would not let that turn you off. Just don't max you budget and have nothing left when you need to fix something. You get a lot of car/engine for your money with a 2nd hand x35.

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07-08-2017, 02:11 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
(07-08-2017 01:33 PM)Captain_Stealth Wrote:  Ok thanks guys, much appreciated.

I plan on keeping the car stock, so does anyone have experience with a hollard warenties package ?

I plan on keeping the car stock: I to said these very same words, yet have a look at my signature RoflRoflRoflRofl

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07-08-2017, 02:38 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
(07-08-2017 01:43 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 12:53 PM)Avi135 Wrote:  You are not asking about an M, or is it an option for you? I wouldn't want to daily a car like the E46m, although very possible to do so. I would say they fall in the special category and not the daily category.

I daily my 135i, it has been reliable and I would probably only swop it out for an E46M and a daily. There are big repair bills if things like the turbos give up, so have a repair budget available. If you are concerned about these things then I think maybe opt for the N55 which has slightly fewer issues...but personally, I don't think 1 turbo is as cool as 2 Rollsmile

I guess in my context it was an n54 135i, a Z4 3.0si or a Z4M.

I probably went for the least practical of the lot in the Z4M, but would do so again.

Not sure what else OP is looking at - hence why my answer is a bit scatter-gun...

But ja, the 135i is definitely very quick (even bone stock, like the one I drove) it shifts well, has great low down torque and is a pretty car. But it never gave *me* a special feeling, just the feel of a rapid, well built car.

I still think they're nice, and that if you are willing to drop plenty of cash to turn it into a 1M clone it could be spectacular, but at the end of the day it just looks a bit too much like ever 120d with an msport kit, I suppose.

Either way, OP, I'm sure if you take the car for a drive you'll have a better idea - but as guys have said, the turbos and so on are big ticket repair items (I think another user is having his z4 35i turbos redone - maybe PM him for a rundown of costs and so on) and typically these aftermarket motorplans only cover a fraction of the costs you'll be facing if the turbos do go bellyup (to the extent that it can become hard to justify the initial investment).

Lol we have strayed off topic as OP has not asked about this. He just wants to daily a 135i. I just wanted to reply to you=)

No need to sugar coat it. These cars are crying out for a LSD at the very least and are not limited in production numbers or in what differentiates them visually from a 120d for example (apart from the bigger brakes, black tail pipes and the front bumper having brake cooling ducts instead of fogs like other 1 series coupes). These 135s can't be compared to Ms. The back end isn't as lively but they would probably smash an N/A M3 in a straight line with a few mods. But that isn't the point of an M anyway.

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07-08-2017, 02:54 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
(07-08-2017 02:38 PM)Avi135 Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 01:43 PM)TBP88 Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 12:53 PM)Avi135 Wrote:  You are not asking about an M, or is it an option for you? I wouldn't want to daily a car like the E46m, although very possible to do so. I would say they fall in the special category and not the daily category.

I daily my 135i, it has been reliable and I would probably only swop it out for an E46M and a daily. There are big repair bills if things like the turbos give up, so have a repair budget available. If you are concerned about these things then I think maybe opt for the N55 which has slightly fewer issues...but personally, I don't think 1 turbo is as cool as 2 Rollsmile

I guess in my context it was an n54 135i, a Z4 3.0si or a Z4M.

I probably went for the least practical of the lot in the Z4M, but would do so again.

Not sure what else OP is looking at - hence why my answer is a bit scatter-gun...

But ja, the 135i is definitely very quick (even bone stock, like the one I drove) it shifts well, has great low down torque and is a pretty car. But it never gave *me* a special feeling, just the feel of a rapid, well built car.

I still think they're nice, and that if you are willing to drop plenty of cash to turn it into a 1M clone it could be spectacular, but at the end of the day it just looks a bit too much like ever 120d with an msport kit, I suppose.

Either way, OP, I'm sure if you take the car for a drive you'll have a better idea - but as guys have said, the turbos and so on are big ticket repair items (I think another user is having his z4 35i turbos redone - maybe PM him for a rundown of costs and so on) and typically these aftermarket motorplans only cover a fraction of the costs you'll be facing if the turbos do go bellyup (to the extent that it can become hard to justify the initial investment).

Lol we have strayed off topic as OP has not asked about this. He just wants to daily a 135i. I just wanted to reply to you=)

No need to sugar coat it. These cars are crying out for a LSD at the very least and are not limited in production numbers or in what differentiates them visually from a 120d for example (apart from the bigger brakes, black tail pipes and the front bumper having brake cooling ducts instead of fogs like other 1 series coupes). These 135s can't be compared to Ms. The back end isn't as lively but they would probably smash an N/A M3 in a straight line with a few mods. But that isn't the point of an M anyway.

Ja think we're on the same page! Bluebiggrin

OP - 135i can definitely be run as a daily, I'd guess that upward of 70% of the 135i's ever made have been run as such, but obviously they're not gonna be light on fuel (stock or not...).

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07-08-2017, 03:21 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
Nothing wrong with a N54/N55/B58 as a daily Tiptoe

Fuel.. Rather worry about rear tyres once a year at least! CoolShake

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07-08-2017, 03:23 PM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2017 03:28 PM by NAS325ci.)
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
I'm assuming n54.

There are lots of common problems that will go wrong.

Random misfire (commonly plugs or coils could also be injectors which are pricey for the higher index 11/12)
Waterpump (very expensive)
Alternator (recon probably voltage regulator)
Oil leaks (valve cover, valve cover gasket, ofhg, oil cooler line o rings)
Vanos solonoids (they also leak oil from the rubbers)
Wastegate rattle (New turbo or recon pricey fix)


All these just happened to me except for wastegate rattle and I know there is more to come lol.


Look this isn't a practical car and by no means cheap to maintain or fix. Coming from an m54 to n54 these two engines are world's apart. But u will need a second car lol.

I just did alternator and waterpump this week so I'm out of pocket +- 13k wife is on my case.

I love this car the n54 is on another level it is quick in stock form and can be modified easily. I drove countless of e46 M's and i will still chose an x35 anyday.

Get one u will not be disappointed but just be prepared to part with cash repairs on these cars add up quickly. and Fuel fuel fuel petrol bill will increase.
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07-08-2017, 03:51 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
Thanks for the advice guys maybe its best I stay away from this car then.

Much appreciated for your input

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07-08-2017, 03:54 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
One thing is certain, all the replys say fuel consumption is a big issue. For daily duties wouldn't the 120d be the better option? Sure it doesn't have the same power but if u sitting in traffic all day then having the 135i is an expensive gas guzzler that you cant use to its potential. Diesel daily would be the winner for me. Turbo petrol car for the weekends where it can be used to its full potential.

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07-08-2017, 04:08 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
I made peace with the fuel economy issue, they just dont go together lol

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07-08-2017, 04:12 PM
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RE: 135i Problematic ?
ja its unfortunate...its a fun car but definitely problematic


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