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e82 125i/120d questions
25-04-2016, 05:13 PM,
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e82 125i/120d questions
hi all,
just wanted to ask some info and advise on the 2 above mentioned cars?

firstly,
do our 125i coupe models here in S.A come with n52b30 3.0l/displacement engines? a quick search on wiki shows that these cars come with 3.0l engines, but i never knew that, is that also true for our market,
or does it come with the 2.5l e90/92 n52b25 powerplants as i first expected?

also,
do all the e82 cars come with satnav/idrive or only on such specced models?

also, im sure its been covered to a certain extent, but, if it were your choice and money which would you get:
120d e82 manual or 125i manual?
performance wise/economy not such an issue,
135i out of the choice for maintenance costs and initial price, maybe one day, but at least not for the moment as it would be a daily,

also what sort of power would a 120d make with: software, full exhaust, intercooler upgrade, intake?
also any hybrid turbo upgrades for these motors?

finally
handeling wise, how do these 1 series coupes stack up against say an e92 coupe/e90 or e46's (coming from an e46 330i now)?

thanks
look forward to the replies

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25-04-2016, 06:32 PM,
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e82 125i/120d questions
As far as I know I have checked my vin on a view sites and have a n52b30

I don't have sat nav and only a few do if arranged can load it through BMW but mad pricing aftermarket solutions aswell that will cost between 5k onwards

Power upgrades are not worth it for the e82 125i series Gaining power on our engine is pretty less and not cheap so i did the cosmetics modification

About the 120d can't help not clued up at all but what I hear also minimal gains unless you willing to drop big bucks if its modification aspects you looking for them my opinion these might not be the cars for your goals ? Just my 2 cent


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25-04-2016, 08:25 PM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
(25-04-2016, 06:32 PM)Matty125i Wrote: As far as I know I have checked my vin on a view sites and have a n52b30

I don't have sat nav and only a few do if arranged can load it through BMW but mad pricing aftermarket solutions aswell that will cost between 5k onwards

Power upgrades are not worth it for the e82 125i series Gaining power on our engine is pretty less and not cheap so i did the cosmetics modification

About the 120d can't help not clued up at all but what I hear also minimal gains unless you willing to drop big bucks if its modification aspects you looking for them my opinion these might not be the cars for your goals ? Just my 2 cent


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hi Matty125i, thanks for your reply,
i would be glad to hear that the 125i's have the n52b30, would be great, if someone could confirm
i must say, i am very happy with the performance from my e46 330i, such a nice car and engine, definitely underrated in my opinion, such a great balance of a car and such fun and pleasure to drive,
if the 125i is rated at 160kw and 270nm vs my 330i's 170kw and 300nm, im sure the weights are pretty much similar so performance should be as well
basically i dont want to downgrade in the performance aspect so that is important to me,
so not looking for something crazy fast or for intense modification, just something fun and enjoyable to drive,

i know that the 320d's can be very quick just from what people say, so was assuming it would be similar for the 120d's,

also the exhaust tone from the 3l bmw straight 6's are just to die for in my opinion,

by fiddling around with my 330i i agree that most engine mods dont gain much, but would definitely delve into the cosmetic side on the 1 series as i think they look stunning,

i thought with the flip up dash part that i see on all the coupes that they all would have had sat nav, what is in this place if they dont have nav?

thanks again

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25-04-2016, 08:42 PM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
I just recently bought an E82 120d auto for my better half, doesn't have satnav, like said above there are very few that do have satnav, in stock guise power is good for a 2.0d but I think it could make much more power with mods, mine still has plan so nothing done to it yet, but overall a very nice car.

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25-04-2016, 09:13 PM,
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My buddy has a 125i auto. It's a bit lazy compared to the e46 330i and fuel consumption is horrendous. He's getting about 14l/100km. That's up here in Gauteng.

I'd advise you get the 120d. Fuel economy is superb and its torquey from low down the rpm range. Great daily.

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25-04-2016, 09:58 PM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
hi,

thanks for the replies,
i can imagine that the 125i must be quite lazy up at the reef, i am in Cape Town however,
i wonder how it does compare to an e46 330i down here,

i have a friend who recently bought an e90 lci 320d, i think i must give him a visit, he's also just recently had software done,

i must say from the beginning i have been leaning towards the 120d just for its potential, also as a daily the economy would be nice, but there's a few things about the n/a 6cyls that i just love

seems like the prices between the 120d and 125i's are much of a muchness to which is good

would love for a modded 120d to chime in

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25-04-2016, 10:45 PM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
Hey man.

I have had the 120d coupe. Not a bad car at all.
I sold it and got the 125i f20 5door 2015. I have done some mods and have redivulous gains. Gone up to. 221kw and 443nm. Watermeth is on its way from BMS and will be installed next week. Looking at close to 240kw on wheels!!!To me the 125i is a better buy
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26-04-2016, 07:30 AM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
Hey Dude

I have a 120D as my daily driver.

Power wise its pretty decent. It does seem to pull me in the seat when I accelerate. I'm not sure about what the effect of power mods will be, my car still has its motor plan.
I am going to do a decat downpipe and exhaust. I found a video on YouTube of a really awesome sounding 120D and I'm being a sound chaser but I want that same sound.

Mine didn't come with satNav. I didn't see the use for it since my phone does the same thing lol.

My Fuel consumption is decent. I know it can be better. I get about 6.8l/100km and thats driving hard.

Overall I'm very happy with my car. It has sufficient power and looks good too. Its also a good feeling when people move out of your way on the highway too Rollsmile

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26-04-2016, 07:49 AM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
(25-04-2016, 10:45 PM)CraigH Wrote: Hey man.

I have had the 120d coupe. Not a bad car at all.
I sold it and got the 125i f20 5door 2015. I have done some mods and have redivulous gains. Gone up to. 221kw and 443nm. Watermeth is on its way from BMS and will be installed next week. Looking at close to 240kw on wheels!!!To me the 125i is a better buy

The F20 125i is not the same as the e82 125i

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26-04-2016, 09:37 AM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
(26-04-2016, 07:49 AM)Zound Wrote:
(25-04-2016, 10:45 PM)CraigH Wrote: Hey man.

I have had the 120d coupe. Not a bad car at all.
I sold it and got the 125i f20 5door 2015. I have done some mods and have redivulous gains. Gone up to. 221kw and 443nm. Watermeth is on its way from BMS and will be installed next week. Looking at close to 240kw on wheels!!!To me the 125i is a better buy

The F20 125i is not the same as the e82 125i

yip, sorry CraigH, looking at an e82 coupe, not the F series 1's unfortunately, very impressive figures your getting there thoughClapper

@kashvir,
thanks for the reply,
i had a look at your car in the showroom section before and love the colour and 1m bumper, looks amazing, really nice car you have there, i'm jealousRollsmile congrats
i'm sure your awesome bumper has something to do with people moving out the wayRollsmile
would like to hear that youtube clip if you have the link, obviously the diesels arnt the best sound compared to n/a but some get very close to sounding really nice, especially the 30d's

thanks

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26-04-2016, 10:06 AM,
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(26-04-2016, 09:37 AM)nirvash Wrote: @kashvir,
thanks for the reply,
i had a look at your car in the showroom section before and love the colour and 1m bumper, looks amazing, really nice car you have there, i'm jealousRollsmile congrats
i'm sure your awesome bumper has something to do with people moving out the wayRollsmile
would like to hear that youtube clip if you have the link, obviously the diesels arnt the best sound compared to n/a but some get very close to sounding really nice, especially the 30d's

thanks

here's the youtube link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRGPDKLzSP4

thanks for the kind words about my car. =) I am pretty chuffed lol

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26-04-2016, 10:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 26-04-2016, 10:34 AM by pimpassdaddy.)
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
The 125i's have the 3.0l engine. Albeit the detuned 170kw NOT the 195kw one. Reason for this, was that the power to mass ratio is the same with the performance of the e90 195kw one... Something along those lines though, I read up on this a while back, as to why BMW did that.

Between a 125i and 120d... 120d HANDSDOWN!!!! 125i won't run away from a 120d from pull off, yet the economy is 33% less.

I average 9.9/10 per 100 on my Z3, and my 120d does 6.8 - 7.5l per 100.

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26-04-2016, 02:00 PM,
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(26-04-2016, 10:31 AM)pimpassdaddy Wrote: The 125i's have the 3.0l engine. Albeit the detuned 170kw NOT the 195kw one. Reason for this, was that the power to mass ratio is the same with the performance of the e90 195kw one... Something along those lines though, I read up on this a while back, as to why BMW did that.

Between a 125i and 120d... 120d HANDSDOWN!!!! 125i won't run away from a 120d from pull off, yet the economy is 33% less.

I average 9.9/10 per 100 on my Z3, and my 120d does 6.8 - 7.5l per 100.

thanks for the infoTy

@kashvir,
damn that 120d sounds meanSkit i like it alot

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04-05-2016, 08:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-05-2016, 08:43 PM by KaosHunter.)
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(25-04-2016, 09:13 PM)Zound Wrote: My buddy has a 125i auto. It's a bit lazy compared to the e46 330i and fuel consumption is horrendous. He's getting about 14l/100km. That's up here in Gauteng.

I'd advise you get the 120d. Fuel economy is superb and its torquey from low down the rpm range. Great daily.
Oh hey I'm that buddy. Yes I do own a 125i auto and yes I always wished I had gotten a manual since this auto box is horrendous. As Zound said, super lazy up here in PTA. Gorgeous exhaust note however and gets pretty fun in the high revs.

Engine is a N52B30 3l 6 cylinder with 160 kW and 280 Nm. Pull is decent but I was always asked by passengers if I had flawed the accelerator because they expected more.

For town driving it becomes quite heavy on the petrol at just below 14l/100km but highway trips I have gotten around 8.5l/100km (Average between the two now: 12.2l/100km).

Best looking BMW in my opinion the last few years but the straight line performance of the 125i specifically is shockingly bad as I just so happen to have been beaten in a stop light drag with a 120D.

I never even bothered with preformance mods as the price/gain ratio was very bad and it just wasn't worth it.

I've had air inlet pipe seal break and two spark coils break but nothing else in the 5 years I have had owned the vehicle.

No SatNav/cruise control/etc, I have basically the standard model except for the Harmon Kardon sound and the M-sport kit.

Just my 2c from a e82 125i owner.

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04-05-2016, 10:54 PM,
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e82 125i/120d questions
Get the 120d of you haven't already chosen won't regret it dp plus SW equals smiles


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04-05-2016, 11:13 PM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
I had a 125i auto, great little car.

I got some info that with just a chip and exhaust you could easily unleash upto 190kw much as the same 330i e90 stock motor (it is the same engine albeit the 125i is detuned as mentioned above) however you then run the risk of voiding your plan (if you still have) but you can't unfortunately get much more.. sadly.
Still that's a quick car if you go that route.

I got myself a 135i dct and surprisingly my fuel consumption is actually a little bit better than my old 125i, the tyre life not so much Rollsmile

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05-05-2016, 07:34 AM,
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(04-05-2016, 11:13 PM)e46monk3y Wrote: I had a 125i auto, great little car.

I got some info that with just a chip and exhaust you could easily unleash upto 190kw much as the same 330i e90 stock motor (it is the same engine albeit the 125i is detuned as mentioned above) however you then run the risk of voiding your plan (if you still have) but you can't unfortunately get much more.. sadly.
Still that's a quick car if you go that route.

I got myself a 135i dct and surprisingly my fuel consumption is actually a little bit better than my old 125i, the tyre life not so much Rollsmile
Apparently that is not correct. I did research recently about the tune because I too heard about it being a detuned version but actually found out that it is due to the manifold that is used on this engine. The entire thing has to be changed to a 3 stage manifold and then a custom tune had to be made which is not made by many tuners.

I was huge and expensive job and not as easy as just re-flashing the ECU.

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05-05-2016, 10:14 AM,
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I spoke to the guys at bmw Boksburg and the told me all 125i 2009 upwards come with the stage 3 manifold maybe someone else can verify according to my my vin and the guy at bmw my 125i has the stage 3 manifold


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05-05-2016, 10:58 AM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
The N52B25 has a stage 3 manifold, found in the E60 525i, good for 160kW.

However, an N52B30 with a stage 3 manifold will put out upwards of 190kW and would no longer be suitably named as a 125i, but more appropriately a 130i.

Send me your VIN, I'll let you know.

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05-05-2016, 11:01 AM,
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RE: e82 125i/120d questions
(05-05-2016, 10:58 AM)Zound Wrote: The N52B25 has a stage 3 manifold, found in the E60 525i, good for 160kW.

However, an N52B30 with a stage 3 manifold will put out upwards of 190kW and would no longer be suitably named as a 125i, but more appropriately a 130i.

Send me your VIN, I'll let you know.

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