discussion Your feeling about previous / older cars

Benji said:

I dont even know what ID7 and ID8 are...

E34, E39, E46 are the sweet spot for BWMs...if you want tech, install a apple car play/android radio. They have ABS, airbags, traction control, xonons (ok, not on the E34, but easily retrofitted) what more do you need?

I dont want a seatbelt beeper, I dont want lane keep assist, I dont want pretensioned seatbelts or seat occupant sensors. I dont want driver monitoring systems and electric this and electric that. I want leather, quality interiors, well engineered suspension, unstressed "large" capacity motors, comfortable seats and an engaged driving experience.

Personally, E28 is just a bit too old school for me to be daily useable, but that isnt the role those cars play anymore

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Peter@AEW said:

In addition to all of the above the assembly methodology has changed to clip on components where should you be unlucky enough for your car needing "stripping" of interior or exterior components the covers disintegrate either during strip down or assembly.
This started with the E9x series having cheap plastics and is by now in full use with all the models.

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Mytfine said:

Don't forget they now build a timing chain and tensioner with cheese.

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TurboLlew said:

There was a time where there was so much anxiety around a timing belt and a chain was such a positive. One of the reasons we bought my wife's Elantra from many years back was that the engine had a chain which was not all that common on inexpensive cars at the time.

Nowadays basically all the manufacturers have had their woes with timing chains to the degree that you may end up changing them around the same mileage/time interval as a belt and at much greater expense. Enshittification intensifies...

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TurboLlew said:

There was a time where there was so much anxiety around a timing belt and a chain was such a positive. One of the reasons we bought my wife's Elantra from many years back was that the engine had a chain which was not all that common on inexpensive cars at the time.

Nowadays basically all the manufacturers have had their woes with timing chains to the degree that you may end up changing them around the same mileage/time interval as a belt and at much greater expense. Enshittification intensifies...

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