F10 530d vs G30 530d

ZiyBMW

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Whats your guys opinion on the following comparison

2015 f10 530d 90000km full service history at bmw R350k
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2017 g39 530d similar mileage and also full bmw service history at R550k.
 

PsyCLown

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This depends on what you're looking for.

While the F10's interior is not bad, I personally prefer the more modern interior in the G30.
Exterior styling, both in M-sport trim look good but once again I do prefer the newer G30 exterior.
Handling wise I feel the G30 handles better, it feels more nimble and agile to me.

In my experience it has been a struggle to find a well spec'd G30, although I guess the same can be said for the F10's.
How important some optional extras are to you and whether either of them have the optional extras you want only you would know.

Whether R200k for a newer generation of 5 series is worth it or not, this is hard to say and would differ from person to person.
I feel the G30 is certainly a step forward, despite some parts being a step backwards (I dislike the change on the indicator stalk mechanism, minor change but it feels less premium vs what was in the F10 and the extended mirror with dimming was reduced on the G30 to only the drivers side where I believe the F10 had for both driver & passenger side). Minor changes in the bigger scheme of things.
 

Nishcat_M140i

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Regardless of F10 or G30, if you flip 530d upside down and rotate it the other way, you'll get the same outcome (IYKYK) 🤣 🤣.

Jokes aside,

2015 F10 would mean its an LCI and it has the N57 motor which is extremely solid. The F10 still looks really good for its age, an LCI is very hard to come by. Mileage and price ain't bad at 90k and R350k seems like a steal, considering F30 330d's around the same age are still selling for over R400k with more or less the same mileage.

The G30 has the newer B57 motor which replaced the N57, also a very reliable engine. The power difference is only about 6kw or so. Of course being a G series car, it will be a bigger step up in terms of interior and tech for sure. I personally find G series cars to be more comfortable and refined in comparison to the F series cars.

The 200k difference is a lot of money between the 2 cars. A decision like this all depends on what you looking for in a car and the type of person you are. If you someone that likes having the latest tech and gadgets, hands down go the G30. But if you someone that prefers raw driving experience, I would say go for the F10. Maintenance wise, they both will be out of warranty, and being similar platforms, the costs will be more or less the same either way.

If I was making this decision, I'd personally go for the F10, especially an LCI model (I might be biased towards F Series Cars). Not that I'm not tech savy, but I prefer the way F series cars handle and feel compared to G series cars. I recently test drove a G20 320i LCI as a potential replacement to my 2018 F30 320i, and yes its got all the latest tech, the nicer big screens, apple car play, very comfortable and quiet ride, but I felt it to be a bit bland and less engaging in comparison to the F30, which is what has made me hold onto my F30. And even if I wanted something like carplay, there are solutions out there. As I said, R200k difference is a lot of money between the two. My F series bias aside, I would rather buy the F10 for R350k, and save that R200k for any potential maintenance or mods.

If we were comparing F10 M5 and F90 M5, or even F8X and G8X, then my perspective would have been completely different despite my love for F Series cars.

All comes down to you at the end of the day bud. You can never go wrong with either option, both amazing cars.
 

Xcede Performance

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G30 is definitely way more advanced with the B57 and HP75 vs the older N57 and HP70 in the F10.

Bang for buck the F10 makes more sense, but if you willing to the spend the extra then the G30 with the newer technology and power train is definitely a step up


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msm

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Is the B57 in the newer cars not a mild hybrid system as well? Curious to see how these hold up in the long term compared to the older “basic” N57’s.
 

Xcede Performance

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In the 30d they are not hybrid. Some guys have already clocked up more than 300K on the odometer with no issues


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msm

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Thanks for clarifying. Strange how some cars are mild hybrid and some are not - even for the same years. Was looking at the current 2 series range recently - apparently the B47 220d is a hybrid whilst the B58 M240i is not. But in the M340i, the B58 is a mild hybrid…
 

Schalk94

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I was in the same boat as you a while back when I bought the G30.The G30 got my vote ,because it is significantly lighter than the F10 and the interior is just such a good place to be in.

Maybe go drive both and take it from there.R200k is a big chunk of change
 

Nastaliq

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Ive had both these cars, albeit in the 20d variant.

Build quality - solid feel, thick heavy doors, road presence and can hold corners very well - Choose the f10.
Modern interior, lighter more nimble driving characteristic and tech - can slide on tight bends at high speed (weight being the issue) - choose the G30.

As many have said, price difference is significant. Both are solid cars in my experience, the motors handle the demands you will likely place on them very well. Service and maintenance as well as parts on both cars will be what is expected. Older car, cheaper parts. Newer car, more expensive parts.
 

ZiyBMW

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Thanks guys for the feedback
I drove both and you's are 100% correct. F10 feels more of a drivers car and g30 feels more 'soft'.
Im inclined more to f10 due to preference and price however would like to ask how does f30 330d compare to f10 530d? Same motor yes but in terms of quality and drive comfort etc
 

VinceM

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Build quality of F10 is superior to F30
F10 feels luxurious vs F30

Driving pleasure of F30 superior to F10
F30 feels more planted vs F10

If you drive them back to back, you will the size of F10 vs F30, especially around bends.

For long distance cruising, and more plush ride, F10 is much better, even the HK sound system sounds better in F10. Easier to find a better specced F10 vs F30 (heads up display, comfort seats, fully digital instrument cluster, soft close, etc.).

It all depends on what you prioritise for this specific acquisition. If you have another “driver focused” vehicle, then take F10.

If not, then rather F30 that you can drive spiritedly from time to time. Get the best of both worlds, frugal and sporty!
 

AshG108

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Build quality of F10 is superior to F30
F10 feels luxurious vs F30

Driving pleasure of F30 superior to F10
F30 feels more planted vs F10

If you drive them back to back, you will the size of F10 vs F30, especially around bends.

For long distance cruising, and more plush ride, F10 is much better, even the HK sound system sounds better in F10. Easier to find a better specced F10 vs F30 (heads up display, comfort seats, fully digital instrument cluster, soft close, etc.).

It all depends on what you prioritise for this specific acquisition. If you have another “driver focused” vehicle, then take F10.

If not, then rather F30 that you can drive spiritedly from time to time. Get the best of both worlds, frugal and sporty!
What Vince said and also, you will feel the F30 to be very "snug" post driving the F10 & the G30.
I had an F30 as a courtesy car recently and the g-series design really is a bit more roomier.
 

ZiyBMW

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Thanks guys
I feel like my preference is still f10 first and only g30 if a good deal comes along.
Im inclined to the build quality of the 5 vs the 3 and also the space in cabin and boot considering the family.
By the way have you's ever driven the f10 535d? What a machine. I haven't seen them in lci though
 

PsyCLown

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Thanks guys
I feel like my preference is still f10 first and only g30 if a good deal comes along.
Im inclined to the build quality of the 5 vs the 3 and also the space in cabin and boot considering the family.
By the way have you's ever driven the f10 535d? What a machine. I haven't seen them in lci though
I do not think the 535d was available locally with the LCI?

I was actually thinking about this the other day, having test drove a 535d, 640d and then G30 530d and G11 730d. The 30d in the G series cars feels punchier and more responsive.
Not sure if it is my imagination or if there were issues with both the 535d and 640d. My friend was with me when we test drove the 640d & 730d and he agreed that even the 730d felt punchier and more responsive.

I have not driven the single turbo 30D in the F series though. If anything I'd have expected more from the twin turbo 30d (35d/40d).
Is this normal? Is this part of the advancements with the G series (B57 & newer gearbox, probably different gearbox calibration too)?
 

ZiyBMW

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I do not think the 535d was available locally with the LCI?

I was actually thinking about this the other day, having test drove a 535d, 640d and then G30 530d and G11 730d. The 30d in the G series cars feels punchier and more responsive.
Not sure if it is my imagination or if there were issues with both the 535d and 640d. My friend was with me when we test drove the 640d & 730d and he agreed that even the 730d felt punchier and more responsive.

I have not driven the single turbo 30D in the F series though. If anything I'd have expected more from the twin turbo 30d (35d/40d).
Is this normal? Is this part of the advancements with the G series (B57 & newer gearbox, probably different gearbox calibration too)?
That's interesting hey. Having driven all I still felt the 535d was the fastest. Maybe because the one i drove had reconditioned turbos and software upgrade to gearbox. And you right i don't think we got lci f10 535d just like we didn't get g30 lci 530d and never got the 540d at all right?
That basically means the pre facelift g30 530d is the last 6 cylinder diesel in the 5. For interest sake look how few g20 330ds are there
 

PsyCLown

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That's interesting hey. Having driven all I still felt the 535d was the fastest. Maybe because the one i drove had reconditioned turbos and software upgrade to gearbox. And you right i don't think we got lci f10 535d just like we didn't get g30 lci 530d and never got the 540d at all right?
That basically means the pre facelift g30 530d is the last 6 cylinder diesel in the 5. For interest sake look how few g20 330ds are there
Its possible the ones I test drove were not 100%, or perhaps the TCU update made a very noticeable difference.

Correct, no 540d ever and no more 30d in the 5 series.
If I am not mistaken the 3L diesel is now only using in the X series, 7 series & 8 series.
 

Schalk94

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I do not think the 535d was available locally with the LCI?

I was actually thinking about this the other day, having test drove a 535d, 640d and then G30 530d and G11 730d. The 30d in the G series cars feels punchier and more responsive.
Not sure if it is my imagination or if there were issues with both the 535d and 640d. My friend was with me when we test drove the 640d & 730d and he agreed that even the 730d felt punchier and more responsive.

I have not driven the single turbo 30D in the F series though. If anything I'd have expected more from the twin turbo 30d (35d/40d).
Is this normal? Is this part of the advancements with the G series (B57 & newer gearbox, probably different gearbox calibration too)?
I had some fun down in Mexico against a 535d and there was very,very little difference between the cars up to about 200kph when we called it.The first guy to get the "jump" would stay ahead on all of the runs. I wonder if weight didn't maybe play a big role,but I also expected more of the 535d.
 

ZiyBMW

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I had some fun down in Mexico against a 535d and there was very,very little difference between the cars up to about 200kph when we called it.The first guy to get the "jump" would stay ahead on all of the runs. I wonder if weight didn't maybe play a big role,but I also expected more of the 535d.
Interesting! Share the video man, haha joking
I guess its the engine upgrade from N to B right. Maybe 535d has more tuning potential
 
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