Mid life crisis car on a budget?

Maljan

Active member
Full disclosure: I am getting close to retirement age. However, retirement car conjures up visions of white Corolla diesels. Nope, I feel young enough to have a midlife crisis.

Let me set the criteria. Budget of R200k tops. I would rather look at a cottage in the platteland than fancy wheels. Also, something that will not totally break the bank with running costs.

Bear in mind that there is absolutely no rush. I work remotely and most of my current driving is about getting groceries. Even that is limited as I have a freshly licensed driver in the house that is all too happy to run errands or play chauffeur. So this is, for now, a thought exercise as invented by Einstein.

As for everybody's favorite brand I am leaving it to the best and brightest. I like the idea of a 125i and it is within budget. That sweet NA six really appeals. Also, the badge reminds me of my youth. Dad had a Fiat 125 in the early seventies. It was really cool with DOHC and discs all around, especially when compared to the Ford Cortinas and VW Variants that the neighbors had.

Next, the obvious answer. According to car websites, the answer is always Mazda MX5. In this case it really is. Plenty to choose from with the budget.

Or how about a Toyota 86? Everyone is singing its praises, except for a few nuts that want more power. They are missing the point. It is really a drifting machine with plenty of power for doing so. The base model even comes on low grip Prius tyres for hooning. Prices are kinda high but there are plenty to choose from. Hey, it is a Toyota. Depreciation does not apply.

Toyota MR2? Old, rare and extremely cramped inside. Nah.

Hot hatch? An old guy driving a Golf GTI or Focus ST would be deeply weird, so I will pass. There is one exception, the old Honda Civic Type R. I test drove one a few years ago. I expected nippy but got brutal. The roar at redline is quite special. I actually told the salesman to call me back so we can do a deal. He never did. Lucky escape.

A Chev Lumina SS would be great. I have never had a V8. The soundtrack would be great all the way to Spar and back, but they are dipsomaniacs and eat rear tyres. My running costs criteria would not be met.

Alfa Romeos within the budget range from nippy 1.4s to great big 3.2 V6s. The roar of the latter should be experienced by everyone. My twentysomething self once bagged a test drive in a GTV6. The glorious sound is a memory I still cherish. Reality check - according to Jezza there is no more stylish way to break down at the roadside. Perhaps not but I remain open-minded.

Volvo had this great Yamaha V8 in the S80, but I don't think there they sold very many in Africa. Quite cheap (and old) but running costs would be stellar. Other Volvos do not appeal. Nah.

One last idea remains - the Lexus IS 350. Yes it is fugly and the back seat is a joke. Car guys might mistake it for the IS 250 which is utterly pathetic. But in the 350 that great big Fortuner V6 really delivers. There are lots of videos on Youtube of guys doing burnouts in these bad boys. There are few of them in the market and prices are all over the place.

Over to you. :)
 
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TurboLlew

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The 86 is an unfunny joke stock - especially at the prices they sold for new. It was when it was released (I drove it back to back with my S2000 which is itself a slow car and it felt like a dog - handling and power wise) and became ever worse value as the years wore on (at last check it was nearly R660K and you could get a lightly used 5.0 Mustang for less).

I feel that people who rate it highly <AS IT IS FROM THE FACTORY> are those who have never driven a fast car in their lives before... and have no idea what is out there handling wise. If you want to spend money modding it (there are guys on here who have 100K suspensions on their 86s) then by all means go ahead and it is a good base... but you're going to blow the budget I think on something that needs a lot of money put into it to be exciting. @devastator complains to me that his service and repair costs are more expensive than his F10 M5. Let that sink in. Owning a Toyota that is fairly exotic, but somehow still not special is NOT cheap. (He might have a different view on the 86 as an owner LOL).

The MX5 (certainly the newer ones) are better if that is the formula you are after... and are going to be easier/cheaper/more rewarding when lightly modded. They are extremely reliable and cheap to keep going. If you want to do a few track days you will have an absolute blast and the running costs to track it are also quite low. S2000s will be out of your price range but if you stretch it is a great car to own. I drove one for over 7 years. You won't win a drag race, but you won't win one with any of the cars on this list anyway (maybe the Z4 Sdrive35is LOL). You will have fun in one of the best handling cars for the money.

The Lumina I would pass on - it does nothing particularly well other than that glorious noise.

Alfas - well... depends on what you can get. I would pass on the ones you listed as lovely as they sound. I don't think the ones that are special enough are anywhere close to your range. That said you might buy one that suddenly spikes in value LOL - anything with that Busso V6 is a candidate... It is a very unpredictable market. Reliability is nowhere close to as bad as it once was.

If you can find the Volvo then Yes (I doubt it LOL)... Lexus is a no unless you go with an ISF (and then your running costs are going to be high)

Other things to consider: 6MT E46 M3 if you can find one? E39 M5 - I doubt the one recently advertised is still available? Z4M if you can find one (will need work) - the ones in your budget for any of these will need further money put into them though.

Sdrive35i/s if you can stretch? I actually love these cars and would buy one of them over a 1 series coupe TBH.

Classics are high maintenance, but there are a whole host of options if you go that route.
 

KPM3_30

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The somewhat sensible choice would be to get an E82 125i 6 speed manual in motorsport guise, if you aren't too concerned with the harder ride. Still looks really good and the NA 6 cylinder offers pretty decent shove for what it is.

Food for thought: as a retirement car, I would want something that is special, almost a reward after working away for 40+ years and a lifetime of sensible choices. If its a car that you won't use too often, then running costs could be less of a consideration point. An older M car seems like a decent option, an E36 M3 for that raw feel or an E39 M5 with a rumbling V8.. If you've been a BMW fan for most of your life, I can't in good conscience recommend another brand as one to settle down with.
 

TBP88

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Get an Alfa GT 3.2V6. The last gen of busso engines, expensive to maintain but you can get a pretty neat one in the mid 100k mark. Lovely cars. But keep a kitty aside to keep the car purring...
 

///M Individual

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In additon to the E82 125i, I would look for an E90/E93 330i, preferably in manual.

Would be nice to drop this guy closer to 200k....what a stunning car!


LCi 330i is very rare, especially in manual MSport guise. More power and an overall better car than the E82 125i.
 

TurboLlew

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I think all these things are quite relative and there is now a wide variety of recommendations ranging from a lotus 7 to MX5 to C55 etc.

Any of these I think would make for a fun car based on your appetite for the trade-offs in each case (comfort, reliability, parts availability, practicality etc)

Harsh ride is relative. I find the M5 too compliant even lowered, with comp suspension and in the harshest of modes. There are others who would find it impossible to live with.

Power is relative: If you haven't driven anything fast before (or fast + RWD), going for an M or AMG might not be the way to go

Cost is relative (and there is a wide range of purchase prices and more importantly maintenance costs above)

Space is relative: Do you need a 7 seater X5 when you have no kids? Is it you and the Mrs? Do you need space for a weekend away or weeks-long vacations touring the country?

If it really is a mid-life crisis car then as mentioned above, to hell with the sensibility of it LOL - Go with your heart
 

momo1

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Have you looked at an E86 Z4 3.0si? youl get the same N52 motor in its full 195kw glory, also they pretty rare and much more fun to drive than the 1er.
similarly priced, if not cheaper.
 
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modocrat

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You're close to retirement and you said 'hooning', Haha! Way to go GrandPa. Just kidding :p

I would suggest a low km Mk II Audi TT, I'm on my third one (2012 with 63k km), and have had no issues, touch wood. Funny thing is, all of my previous S-tronic Audis that were on plan, have had gearbox related issues.

The TT works really well as a daily driver and weekend cruiser, the seating position is perfect and has loads of boot space for your trips to Spar.
With the tiny rear seats folded, I managed to fit my 54cm bicycle in the boot.

The car has quite a bit of grunt in normal D mode but turns into an animal when put into S. Yes, I know its not an M135i but for 155kw it really is quite fun around town and it sounds good too.

All the best with your search, do let us know when you finally pull the trigger.
 

AdiS

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I can't see how an E39 M5 or E46 M3 can fit into a budget of R200k. Any examples of those cars that you buy for that price will need in excess of R100k+ spent on them.

An E82 125i is not really all that exciting, so whilst it may be had in budget and has a cool image, it doesn't really deliver any excitement of run, in my opinion.

I actually think an MX5 is likely the most fun within that budget, but that may or may not be your cup of tea.
 

Solo Man

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I suggest the Z4 circa 2007 with the uprated 3l motor. Very nice car and not too harsh ride. I had the 2004 roadster 3l manual which was quite nice and not too bad performance wise. Nice in the bends as well but fortunately i do not drive that way any more (turning 70 this week) Get the coupe as it will have enough boot space for you and your wife if you want to travel. Furthest i went was to Hartenbos in winter with the top down leaving here at five in the morning. Nice road trip. Other option is the MX5. Just my 2c's
 

Kyle

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I think the crazy used car market is your biggest problem at the moment, cars that were basically free at one point are suddenly calling a premium again. I would personally wait a bit and see what happens, wait for the market to "normalize".
 

MR_Y

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I will throw in the Nissan 370z (or 350z), if you can find an unmolested one at a reasonable price.
But, a British racing green MX-5 (NC model should easily be in your price range?), with tan leather has a bit of Jag or MG roadster look to it.
I would go for the MX5 (in fact, I was going to before I lost the plot and went for a Porsche).
 
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Maljan

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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Lots of ideas. The market is indeed kinda crazy at the moment.

I have an SUV but the kids are all grown up now and family outings are a thing of the past. A 2-seater would work just fine.

As for E46 and E39, I have had both. Not M cars but the cabin architectures of these are imprinted in my brain. Still have the E39, long story. I will tell that later.

The other things is test drives are really not a good idea at the moment. Social distancing works best when you are at home.

The Nisan 350Z/370Z have been on my radar. It must have slipped my mind. Incidentally, the water pump on that V6 is inside the block and driven by the cam chain. Replacement is a big job. Genius cost cutting measure from Carlos Ghosn.
 
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